Advice on Egg Damage
07-14-2019, 11:28 AM
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See post #21 here, and follow the link to TOGWT:
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...nny-day-2.html
To summarize TOGWT:
"Egg Stains / Damage to Paint surface
As well as the impact damage, egg contains Albumin (refers generally to any protein with water solubility) and amino Aspartic and Glutamic acids that will erode the clear coat and eventually the basecoat if not neutralized / removed. If the affected paintwork is not neutralized any remaining acid residue will be reactivated each time it comes into contact with water (See also Reactivity)
Saturate the area with Isopropyl Alcohol and keep it ‘wet’ for 4-5 minutes with a soaked towel laid on the stain, do not agitate the surface. Flush with clean water and dry thoroughly. Inspect surface for cracking, discoloration or other damage with a 30X lighted magnifying loupe, use a chemical cleaner to remove any discoloration, and then a suitably abrasive polish or wet-sand to level the paint surface to below the level of the etching (an shallow indentation in the paint surface caused by an acid)
Then apply a paint protection product. If the clear coat shows signs of failure (cracking) take vehicle to a professional paint / body shop."
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...nny-day-2.html
To summarize TOGWT:
"Egg Stains / Damage to Paint surface
As well as the impact damage, egg contains Albumin (refers generally to any protein with water solubility) and amino Aspartic and Glutamic acids that will erode the clear coat and eventually the basecoat if not neutralized / removed. If the affected paintwork is not neutralized any remaining acid residue will be reactivated each time it comes into contact with water (See also Reactivity)
Saturate the area with Isopropyl Alcohol and keep it ‘wet’ for 4-5 minutes with a soaked towel laid on the stain, do not agitate the surface. Flush with clean water and dry thoroughly. Inspect surface for cracking, discoloration or other damage with a 30X lighted magnifying loupe, use a chemical cleaner to remove any discoloration, and then a suitably abrasive polish or wet-sand to level the paint surface to below the level of the etching (an shallow indentation in the paint surface caused by an acid)
Then apply a paint protection product. If the clear coat shows signs of failure (cracking) take vehicle to a professional paint / body shop."
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usccharles (07-14-2019)
07-14-2019, 04:41 PM
#17
Ask a good detailer their opinion, maybe it can be touched up with one of those Dr. ColorChip or Langka products. If it were my car, and it took 3 months to even notice it, I'd just leave it be and not worry about it. If you're going to drive the car it will, inevitably, collect a few chips and dings along the way, so making it absolutely perfect today is no guarantee against something else happening tomorrow. I am usually relieved when I get the first ding or chip on a perfect car, I feel like it protects against further damage and I stop being concerned about it. As it is now it would have a negligible effect on the trade value, but if you paint it -- even if you pay cash for it and manage to keep it off the Carfax -- they can still put a meter on it and discover it. It's also not a great idea to put paint protection film on fresh paint, as it can lift it if you have to remove the film later for some reason. It costs thousands to wrap the entire car, and you sure won't see any of that back on a trade.
07-14-2019, 06:03 PM
#18
Lots of possibilities, sounds like. I reached out to Moe who also recommended repainting. I ordered a small piece of PPF to try just to see how that works on it, temporarily. I think some paint correction with PPF after would be the most preferable, just to avoid the hassle of repainting, especially since it’s the driver’s door AND the front fender. I’ll update after I try the PPF.
07-14-2019, 06:28 PM
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Lots of possibilities, sounds like. I reached out to Moe who also recommended repainting. I ordered a small piece of PPF to try just to see how that works on it, temporarily. I think some paint correction with PPF after would be the most preferable, just to avoid the hassle of repainting, especially since it’s the driver’s door AND the front fender. I’ll update after I try the PPF.
07-14-2019, 11:12 PM
#23
No idea, I didn’t notice the scratches until I washed it, so I’m not sure. I’ve been with the car almost every day that I’ve had it, but there have been some days I’ve been out of town, so it’s possible it happened and the egg got cleaned up before I noticed. Or it could have happened when I was driving and I didn’t notice it somehow, the noise probably would have just sounded like a rock. I park in garage at my apartment and a garage at my office, so I really have no idea. I’m very confident it happened after I bought it, I feel like I’d have noticed it at the dealership if not.
07-14-2019, 11:46 PM
#24
Most just wash off with car soap and water. Turtle Wax Bug and Tar Cleaner in the spray bottle, not the foam in an aerosol can, seems to work on my black paint for the difficult bird droppings that don't simply wash off.
07-14-2019, 11:49 PM
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That is a damn shame. I’ve been fortunate that nearly two years in i’ve had no deliberate damage done to my car. Good luck with whatever you decide to do; almost dammed if you do, dammed if you don’t.
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usccharles (07-15-2019)
07-15-2019, 12:51 AM
#27
I can be wrong but I believe anytime you repaint, the resale goes down. So if the decision is based on future resale value, there is your answer.
If it was my car, since you have minor scratches here and there already from normal wear and tear, I would spend the money to have a good detailer do a complete detail work on the car and then get it wrapped. You’ll be surprised how much that will clean things up.
I had my wife wife’s used vintage car fully detailed and PPF-ed and the look of the car now is night and day.
If it was my car, since you have minor scratches here and there already from normal wear and tear, I would spend the money to have a good detailer do a complete detail work on the car and then get it wrapped. You’ll be surprised how much that will clean things up.
I had my wife wife’s used vintage car fully detailed and PPF-ed and the look of the car now is night and day.
Avoiding wear and tear is probably the best reason to have the whole car PPF'd.
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usccharles (07-15-2019)
07-15-2019, 12:54 AM
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07-15-2019, 01:21 AM
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The main issue with paint getting egg’d is the hard calcium shell of the egg...imagine hundreds of sharp points chipping away the paint. Polishing, sanding, or clear braing will not bring back the paint that has been chipped away.
It’s a unique problem and repaint is the only real solution unfortunately. You can always try and minimize it, but come resale, would you want a used car with egg splinters and missing paint, or would you rather have it properly documented and repainted by a Porsche specialist? That’s the question.
insurance covers this BTW, and it shouldn’t raise your rates
It’s a unique problem and repaint is the only real solution unfortunately. You can always try and minimize it, but come resale, would you want a used car with egg splinters and missing paint, or would you rather have it properly documented and repainted by a Porsche specialist? That’s the question.
insurance covers this BTW, and it shouldn’t raise your rates
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Needsdecaf (07-15-2019)
07-15-2019, 03:45 AM
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If you get it repainted... how would a dealer in the future know, if it was done well?
its not like an accident and it showing up on carfax, etc.
its not like an accident and it showing up on carfax, etc.