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Old 07-05-2019, 02:27 AM
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For me, a "drivers-build" S is a better option than a T.

eg: S, manual, RWS, SC, SE, Sport Plus seats, no sunroof, a few alcantara and carbon bits to spruce up the interior.

The weight reduction on the T is IMHO a red herring... Just spec an S with no roof, no FAL, and 4-way sport+ seats and your good to go.

And it is just hard for me to give up on the additional power and brakes that an S offers, not to mention the opportunity to bring it up to fully-supported-by-Porsche GTS specs by adding a powerkit.

And while I love the idea of sport buckets, they just wouldn't work for me for what I want to do with a 911.
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Old 07-05-2019, 02:38 PM
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I went back and forth on the RAS on my recent T but ended up going without as I wanted a more analog feel. Loving my T. It's just super fun.
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Old 07-05-2019, 03:23 PM
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Driver's build? The reason I like the T is that is a "pure" drivers car, with the base engine and smaller turbos that spool up faster. It feels super-responsive. Maybe this is all marketing BS but I like the idea of the cloth door pulls, the light-weight glass etc...

Here's my T build
1. MT
2. Sunroof delete
3. LW glass
4. 4WSS+ seats with SportTex cloth, leather backs
5. RAS - yes - I went for it as I think it's kind of cool. Do I really notice a difference? Hard to tell...

Now I'm in the process of getting rid of the multi-function steering wheel and just going with a simple 4-stalk.,

How's your experience so far?
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Old 07-05-2019, 03:34 PM
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Buying new? Look at CPO GTS. Its better but the only difference is there isn't a group of owners tooting their horns at every opportunity. You can find a lightweight spec too if that's your thing and you've got the sexier widebody too.
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Old 07-05-2019, 06:16 PM
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Old 07-05-2019, 06:27 PM
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Driver's build? The reason I like the T is that is a "pure" drivers car, with the base engine and smaller turbos that spool up faster. It feels super-responsive. Maybe this is all marketing BS but I like the idea of the cloth door pulls, the light-weight glass etc...
I agree, the T is more of a pure drivers build... What I can't wrap my head around is paying a premium vs. an S (on the used market) for less horsepower, smaller brakes, etc.

If the T was really priced notably less than an S, would be a different story.
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Old 07-05-2019, 11:42 PM
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SNAP!! The T is the gift that just keeps giving! Can't get enough!
No way is that a Buffalo Bills shirt, is it? I ask because Iím a huge fan(no jokes, please, Iíve had enough for the longest time)
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Old 07-06-2019, 01:27 AM
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The biggest difference you probably felt is the seats. LWBs make a car feel a lot different. LWB are a must for me even though I am fat and decrepit. Janko Lind has a great video on YouTube on it ó feel impact of LWBs that is. Keep that in mind if you are shopping another one without LWBs. I have not driven a PASM v. A SPASM car so that may have an impact, I donít know. I assume one could feel the weight difference between a heavy option car and a light one too, but again I donít have the experience first hand with a 991.

Also with MT, the gearing is the same T to S and the shifter is an easy and relatively inexpensive swap if you prefer the short shifter (I think it is too short and the spring pressure too high ó itís the same one I have in my GT3 ó but I installed a longer shifter in my 993 so probably going against the grain there).
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I’ve had my T since April last year and may have the T with the highest mileage...?

It has over 18k on the clock and is booked for its minor/20k mile service later this month.

It’s my daily driver and my sole car. For these reasons, it has the rear seats and heated rear window, as I drive it all year round and do carry passengers in the back at times.

I opted for a lightly optioned T (no pun intended) so mine is manual, standard sports seats, no sunroof, Carrera T leather interior and not much else. (I also bought 19” Carrera wheels with winter tyres for use in the colder months.)

It’s my fourth Porsche and my favourite so far, and the one I’ve kept the longest and covered the most miles in.

Am pretty sure it’ll be a long term keeper. I’ve already had shorter, stiffer KW springs fitted, new bushes and 7mm spacers all round. More mods are booked in for the end of this month.

As mentioned above, you can no longer order a new T, so it’s pre-owned Ts, or ones still sitting at dealers, some/many of which may have less popular spec options.

(My first three Porsches were a Macan 2.0, a 991.1 C2 and a new Panamera 4.)

I think it’s kind of cool that only about 2,000 or so Ts were built, but know that my T will still depreciate as most cars do, only more in my case due to my high miles/smiles!


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Thanks for all of the replies and feedback.
My wife and I spent all day Friday driving T, S and even a GT4.
Hands down, the T gave us the ride we were looking for, especially with the buckets.
Now we are on the hunt.
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Thumbs up 911 T vs. '85 Euro-spec 930.

My Euro-spec '85 930 Turbo is an uncivilized beast compared to my newly-purchased '18 911 T. The updated comfort and drivability make it a sweetheart even my wife enjoys.
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Well done ....You won't be disappointed OP!
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Never owned a non GT car. Bought on a whim a manual, RAS, T. Did exhaust and tune. Car is beyond exceptional. Blows away any other non- GT car I've been in and for around town all the tq is amazing. Driveline in sports plus is lag free even with tune and smaller turbos have instant spool. Manual box seems the same as GT cars even though it isn't. Super short throws that are super crisp.


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Old 07-06-2019, 03:01 PM
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The biggest difference you probably felt is the seats. LWBs make a car feel a lot different. LWB are a must for me even though I am fat and decrepit. Janko Lind has a great video on YouTube on it ó feel impact of LWBs that is. Keep that in mind if you are shopping another one without LWBs. I have not driven a PASM v. A SPASM car so that may have an impact, I donít know. I assume one could feel the weight difference between a heavy option car and a light one too, but again I donít have the experience first hand with a 991.

Also with MT, the gearing is the same T to S and the shifter is an easy and relatively inexpensive swap if you prefer the short shifter (I think it is too short and the spring pressure too high ó itís the same one I have in my GT3 ó but I installed a longer shifter in my 993 so probably going against the grain there).
I agree in principal the buckets really make the ride feel harder almost like having stiffer springs which makes sense. I opted for the standard 4-ways which seem to be a nice middle ground between buckets and super comfy 18-ways. The feel of my T reminds me the most of my old 964 out of any modern 911s.

I'd take anything that Janko Lind guy says with a massive pinch of salt. He seems to want to come across as this super driving expert but doesn't know sh*t. Last video of his I saw he was mouthing off about how bad the grip was on the 992's Goodyear tires while he was doing these super-slow, novice-grade PAG lead/follows on a tiny little track somewhere in Sweden. I'm pretty sure the instructors just told him they were bad so he just regurgitated that as if it was his own observation when he's no-where near capable of feeling the difference.
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I can tell you from personal experience I agree with Janko on the seats. Itís not so much one is better than the other, it just makes a noticeable difference in the feel of the car. Not sure about the new Goodyears as I have no experience with them and I put all season tires on my car so I do not claim to be a performance tire expert by any means.

Some people have said the 4 way sport plus are actually softer than the 18 way (because the motors take up space otherwise occupied by padding), but I have not compared those two in motion. I also could not tell just sitting in them. I personally see no added value in 18 ways over 4 way sport plus, but some people do, especially those who need lumbar support.

My point, which it seems you agree, was that options, especially seats, can make the same car feel differently.
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