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Old 06-19-2019 | 10:35 PM
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Checked out a certified 911 with low miles but carfax says it has a theft record , stolen and recovered. I am surprised it was certified

the 911 with 7k miles looks immaculate and drives great but after the carfax info I am not sure if it is even worth negotiating a big discount with the dealer

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Old 06-19-2019 | 10:42 PM
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Can you find out what was repaired after the recovery? If you expect to keep it a long time, it may be a good deal, but keep in mind, that Carfax will have the same theft event when you go to sell it.
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They told me car was immaculate when it was traded in and they certified it with no issues but they did not know when it was traded in it was stolen and recovered
Old 06-19-2019 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by casaforte9
They told me car was immaculate when it was traded in and they certified it with no issues but they did not know when it was traded in it was stolen and recovered
What dealer takes a car on trade and does not run a Carfax on it? The story needs some work.
Old 06-19-2019 | 11:16 PM
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I think car was traded in before stolen report came on carfax but not sure if it is 100 percent truth
Old 06-19-2019 | 11:37 PM
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Carfax incidents do not show up immediately. It takes a couple months. It's pretty common shady practice for people to have an accident with a car, fix it quickly, and dump it before the hit goes on the carfax.
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The fact that the car was reported stolen and recovered does not necessarily mean that there was any damage to it. Could have been an ugly family fight or divorce battle with zero damage to the car. Could be a great deal!
Old 06-19-2019 | 11:48 PM
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Post a link to the car and we'll give you our opinions on it.
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https://www.paulmillerporsche.com/ce...12e27060f1.htm
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$177k seems too high, even with CPO.

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For that kind of money,, I would really want to know if it was repaired, and who did it,, and how much,,
Also I'd want the full dump of the cars PWIS data. Especially the RPM record.

Hard to believe that kind of car could be stolen and recovered without leaving a trail, heck they should be able to get the theft report.

I know when I had a car stolen, the insurance company just sent me a check,, that day..
Then I actually recovered the car,, so I sent the check back and they paid to get the locks fixed.. and a new stereo...
They told me their policy at the time was immediate replacement and if recovered they would auction the recovered vehicle.
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Stolen means many things. Could be owner that parked and hid it somewhere, reported stolen, and after payout, car found again

happens all the time.
Old 06-20-2019 | 08:19 AM
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Almost 200k on a car with a story that affects retail, I am gasping. Someone may have driven it like they stole it.
Old 06-20-2019 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by eroc0808
Carfax incidents do not show up immediately. It takes a couple months. It's pretty common shady practice for people to have an accident with a car, fix it quickly, and dump it before the hit goes on the carfax.
I also thought this, but I think it depends on the situation. I’ve had a car get damaged (hit and run) and it took 3 months to fix. This repair duration is pretty common with higher end cars that sustain more damage than just a fender bender.

Either way, I wouldn’t pay that if it had a clean record, let alone a theft record. I paid just 30k more for my custom ordered 227k MSRP TTS with 0 miles and a clean record. Just for reference.
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A discount of only slightly over 7% off MSRP seems much too low for a used 2018, especially given the car's questionable history. I would have expected a similar discount off a new, 2019.


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