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Old 04-25-2019, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by verstraete
Add Item 7.

7. Never drive a Porsche that is not under warranty

Seriously, I have a Ph.D in aerospace/mechanical engineering, am a veteran of the aerospace industry, and have taught mechanical design courses for many years. A street vehicle that requires steps 1 through 6 to avoid catastrophic engine failure in normal daily use represents a badly flawed design. The only way I can rationalize my continuing use of a 991 as a DD is by maintaining warranty coverage.
I’ll gladly buy your fully depreciated vehicle when you are done with it...depreciation costs will trump non-maintenance related repair costs 9/10 times.
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Originally Posted by Tampa991
I’ll gladly buy your fully depreciated vehicle when you are done with it...depreciation costs will trump non-maintenance related repair costs 9/10 times.
Send me a PM in 7 years when the planned extended Fidelity Platinum warranty on my 2017 991.2S is about to expire and you may have a deal. It's not the maintenance cost that I want to avoid, it's the hassle. My days of playing mechanic, or even indirectly dealing with involved maintenance details, are long over.
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Deal!
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Originally Posted by Tampa991
Deal!
Sounds good.

If I decide to move on to a later 991 before seven years, I will give you a chance by PM to buy my depreciated, low-mileage, never abused, maintained to factory specs, but no more, 2017 MT S.
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I will be here!
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Originally Posted by verstraete
Add Item 7.

7. Never drive a Porsche that is not under warranty

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That's good advice for people that can afford it, but we must also realize that there a lot of people that would love to experience a Porsche in spite of the lack of a warranty. I would argue that most of the 986, 987, 996, and 997 crowd in the forums probably bought their cars used without any type of warranty. That's why they come to the forums - to learn how to repair and service these wonderful machines themselves. It's unfortunate, these machines come with so much unforeseen issues that can make a childhood dream turn into your worst nightmare.

My advice is buy what you can afford and know exactly the cost of ownership before you sign on the dotted line. Never go into buying a 911 blindly.
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I feel like this entire thread is making a mountain out of a mole hill. Bore Scoring as of now is not a major issue on the 991 generation 9A1, and all this speculation is just that, speculation.

Originally Posted by verstraete
Add Item 7.

7. Never drive a Porsche that is not under warranty

Seriously, I have a Ph.D in aerospace/mechanical engineering, am a veteran of the aerospace industry
This seems obvious, aerospace guys have an extremely low tolerance to risk. Option 7 is rather unrealistic for most people though, and personally not a big deal. Don't buy what you can't afford to fix. My 991.1 is not under warranty, and I prefer it that way, I don't need to worry about the modifications I'm doing to the car killing my warranty.
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Haven't seen a lot of 991.1 engine rebuild or heavy maintenance Indy's yet. What would this mean for an out of warranty owner in actual dollars? If it's just a bucket could that be replaced? How much?

Assuming 22K miles and zero consumption at that point, what's the likely hood of suddenly developing something like that?
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Originally Posted by SpeedZ
I feel like this entire thread is making a mountain out of a mole hill. Bore Scoring as of now is not a major issue on the 991 generation 9A1, and all this speculation is just that, speculation.



This seems obvious, aerospace guys have an extremely low tolerance to risk. Option 7 is rather unrealistic for most people though, and personally not a big deal. Don't buy what you can't afford to fix. My 991.1 is not under warranty, and I prefer it that way, I don't need to worry about the modifications I'm doing to the car killing my warranty.
Exactly, you won't find an engine out there that doesn't have some examples with bore scoring. This is the first 991.1 I've heard of with it.
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What was the cost saving or benefit of using Alusil instead of Nikasil?
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Originally Posted by various cheeses
What was the cost saving or benefit of using Alusil instead of Nikasil?
According to Jake Raby, they switched due to environmental regulations on the manufacturing of Nikasil.
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FYI, deep in the last century, when discussion turned to Porsche and Alusil, it was in the context of the entire cylinder block cast in Alusil.

Nikasil and Lokasil are cylinder wall coating processes that enable the cylinder block to be cast from normal aluminum (where ‘normal’ means ‘cheapest-possible.’)
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Originally Posted by Tampa991
According to Jake Raby, they switched due to environmental regulations on the manufacturing of Nikasil.
Nice. Same reason why modern car paint is garbage, I hear.
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Old 05-07-2019, 12:16 PM
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I just had Motul 5W40 xcess8100 put in my 14 50th and I am sure it is 100% psychological but the car felt slightly snappier driving home

How often do you guys change oil? 5k miles? 10k or 1 year? I am sure this is like break in with different answers
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5k miles or one year, whichever comes first


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