Please offer opinions on pricing for this 991.1 C4S
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After over 470 cars there is one thing I will tell you, a good deal is nothing more than a state of mind. I've seen people post what they think a car should be worth, in some cases far below the market average, which is probably why some folks take so long to find a car to buy. I'm old and not very patient. There are CPO'd (same year) cars with over 40K miles with asking prices in the mid 70's. If the car has what you want and you want it, then it can be a good deal for you. Spring is coming and prices tend to go up not down during better weather months. The car I bought is my winter fun car, and will go into storage on April 1st.
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Does it have all the options YOU want? It would be missing 18 ways and SPASM for me personally, and I know it's polarizing but I only like these 991 in PDK. That said, 73-75 seems more than fair to me. A lot of car for the money! If it's a car you really like I absolutely guarantee you'll forget about an extra $1k here or there the day you first get it home.
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It's funny: I can tell the seller is very ambivalent about selling. And as a buyer, I feel the same way! Part of me dreads acquiring my next 911, because I know firsthand how much of a hassle it can be to unload. If you trade it or sell it to a dealer you get screwed so the dealer can make a profit. If you try to sell it to an individual, you have to deal with annoying people like me, and the process can take a long time. And no matter what you do, you have to confront the reality of how much money you lost while owning your car. And that all assumes you didn't make any modifications to the car. If you upgrade your wheels or exhaust, you lose even more money on the deal.
Don't get me wrong, I'm looking forward to eventually getting my next 911. But the longer I wait to buy, the better. These cars are just depreciating every day, and there are always more being listed for sale somewhere.
That reminds me ... time to go check the classifieds and "hot for sale" threads!
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And to be honest, the hunt is kind of enjoyable too.
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Not sure where you live but if the purchase price ia left blank on the bill of sale or the car is registered in Montana 6k is easily offset.
[QUOTE=SLC Tortfeasor;15706364]Yeah, I'm not trying to nickle and dime the seller, but I can't afford to overpay by $4-6K. Buying an expensive sports car is already a bad financial decision. I know there are people who have way more money than me who can absorb that kind of loss without too much heartburn, but not me. I'm just looking to see if we can get the price somewhere in the fair market value range, rather than outside that range. Obviously reasonable minds often differ about what's "fair," and that's part of the reason why input from the experts here on Rennlist can be helpful.
It's funny: I can tell the seller is very ambivalent about selling. And as a buyer, I feel the same way! Part of me dreads acquiring my next 911, because I know firsthand how much of a hassle it can be to unload. If you trade it or sell it to a dealer you get screwed so the dealer can make a profit. If you try to sell it to an individual, you have to deal with annoying people like me, and the process can take a long time. And no matter what you do, you have to confront the reality of how much money you lost while owning your car. And that all assumes you didn't make any modifications to the car. If you upgrade your wheels or exhaust, you lose even more money on the deal.
Don't get me wrong, I'm looking forward to eventually getting my next 911. But the longer I wait to buy, the better. These cars are just depreciating every day, and there are always more being listed for sale somewhere.
That reminds me ... time to go check the classifieds and "hot for sale" threads![/QUOTE
[QUOTE=SLC Tortfeasor;15706364]Yeah, I'm not trying to nickle and dime the seller, but I can't afford to overpay by $4-6K. Buying an expensive sports car is already a bad financial decision. I know there are people who have way more money than me who can absorb that kind of loss without too much heartburn, but not me. I'm just looking to see if we can get the price somewhere in the fair market value range, rather than outside that range. Obviously reasonable minds often differ about what's "fair," and that's part of the reason why input from the experts here on Rennlist can be helpful.
It's funny: I can tell the seller is very ambivalent about selling. And as a buyer, I feel the same way! Part of me dreads acquiring my next 911, because I know firsthand how much of a hassle it can be to unload. If you trade it or sell it to a dealer you get screwed so the dealer can make a profit. If you try to sell it to an individual, you have to deal with annoying people like me, and the process can take a long time. And no matter what you do, you have to confront the reality of how much money you lost while owning your car. And that all assumes you didn't make any modifications to the car. If you upgrade your wheels or exhaust, you lose even more money on the deal.
Don't get me wrong, I'm looking forward to eventually getting my next 911. But the longer I wait to buy, the better. These cars are just depreciating every day, and there are always more being listed for sale somewhere.
That reminds me ... time to go check the classifieds and "hot for sale" threads![/QUOTE
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He wants 80. What do you want to spend? Easy enough to come together or walk away depending on that spread. If you are ready to purchase or mail a check that can also be persuasive to a seller.
Consider this. If this is basically the exact spec you're looking for and you pass on this car, when is the next one just like it going to become available? And at what price? I would hate to lose a season of driving and enjoyment for a couple k.
Consider this. If this is basically the exact spec you're looking for and you pass on this car, when is the next one just like it going to become available? And at what price? I would hate to lose a season of driving and enjoyment for a couple k.
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Not that I know any more than anyone else, but I don't think that "great deals" really exist. They're just "deals" that anyone else could get also (with rare exceptions), but that the seller is good at his/her job and makes the buyer think that they're special/better negotiator than everyone else.
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Not that I know any more than anyone else, but I don't think that "great deals" really exist. They're just "deals" that anyone else could get also (with rare exceptions), but that the seller is good at his/her job and makes the buyer think that they're special/better negotiator than everyone else.