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SLC Tortfeasor 03-12-2019 02:10 PM

Please offer opinions on pricing for this 991.1 C4S
 
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I've got an opportunity to buy this car. This is an 11,000 mile, 1-owner 2013 C4S with clean CarFax. I haven't gotten a PPI yet and I don't know about the condition of the tires, but seller assures me the car is pristine. Silver exterior, black standard interior, manual, SportDesign package, glass sunroof, Premium Package Plus, sport chrono, PSE, 14-way seats, Bose.

What I want to know from you all is, what is the range of prices you think I should reasonably expect for this car? That means, assuming the seller is normally motivated (i.e., looking to sell but not desperate), what's the lowest price I could reasonably expect to get it for? And what's the price above which it would not represent a fair deal for me (i.e., the price at which I'd be paying "too much").

I'm not going to share the seller's asking price because I don't want to taint anyone's opinions. I've already done some research and found that it is above the Kelly Blue Book price. I just thought getting a few more data points would be helpful as I consider starting negotiations.

By the way, does anyone know how I could get a free AutoCheck or CarFax for this?

Thanks in advance!

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1Carnut 03-12-2019 02:17 PM

I paid 72K for a CPO'd car with about a 138K original sticker, had under 25K miles.

RobC4sX51 03-12-2019 09:04 PM

It’s worth what ever the seller will let it go for and what ever the buyer will pay. It is a unique C4s with the Sport Design option, manual, and very low miles. $70k would be a steal, $75k would be fair, and $80k would be too much. Good luck.

NJ991 03-12-2019 09:45 PM

72k, based on what I have seen a few months ago and this build.

AWay 03-12-2019 10:19 PM

Does it have all the options YOU want? It would be missing 18 ways and SPASM for me personally, and I know it's polarizing but I only like these 991 in PDK. That said, 73-75 seems more than fair to me. A lot of car for the money! If it's a car you really like I absolutely guarantee you'll forget about an extra $1k here or there the day you first get it home.

thejazzman 03-12-2019 10:22 PM


Originally Posted by RobC4sX51 (Post 15699620)
It’s worth what ever the seller will let it go for and what ever the buyer will pay. It is a unique C4s with the Sport Design option, manual, and very low miles. $70k would be a steal, $75k would be fair, and $80k would be too much. Good luck.

I'd say $73k to $75k. It gets a little bump for the Sportdesign package. When I bought by 2013 4S last year, I paid a little extra for Sportdesign and full leather - both rare options. My must-have list had PDK, Chrono, PSE, full leather and Sportdesign. When I found a car with those options I jumped on it. Is this a color combo you love and does this car have the options on your must-have list?

SLC Tortfeasor 03-13-2019 12:53 AM


Originally Posted by thejazzman (Post 15699785)
I'd say $73k to $75k. It gets a little bump for the Sportdesign package. When I bought by 2013 4S last year, I paid a little extra for Sportdesign and full leather - both rare options. My must-have list had PDK, Chrono, PSE, full leather and Sportdesign. When I found a car with those options I jumped on it. Is this a color combo you love and does this car have the options on your must-have list?

Yes, this has pretty much everything that's really important to me. I'd prefer to also have illuminated entry and deviated stitching, but that stuff's not really important.

Sajan 03-13-2019 01:48 AM

I have used this site to get carfax/autocheck. It used to be cheaper.
https://www.autovin.de/

Bud Taylor 03-13-2019 09:30 AM

78k
 
Finding those options is ptetty rare.

SLC Tortfeasor 03-14-2019 12:11 PM

Thanks so much to those who responded. I really appreciate it!

Well, since it looks like nobody else is going to chime in, I'll reveal the seller's asking price: $85,000.

When I started this thread, I knew the asking price was high, but it seems my estimates were off. I now think it's significantly too high! I now have more respect for the Kelly Blue Book estimate.

I've asked the seller to come down, and it's been a few days since our last conversation with no response from him. He just doesn't seem particularly eager to sell. He said he's had it listed for sale for about two months now and I'm only the second person to contact him about it. But that doesn't seem to bother him at all.

So, this might not be the right car for me. I need to find a seller who's seriously interested in selling and willing to price their car accordingly.

Thanks again.

AdamSanta85 03-14-2019 12:37 PM

I've been on the hunt myself. I feel like prices are ticking north. I am seeing $120ish-k build, low mile, C2S's CPO going for low 70's. I would say high 70's is a good number for this C4S. This car has all the right options (PDK give or take).

SLC Tortfeasor 03-14-2019 01:33 PM

Thanks for the input!

SLC Tortfeasor 03-14-2019 01:34 PM


I've been on the hunt myself. I feel like prices are ticking north. I am seeing $120ish-k build, low mile, C2S's CPO going for low 70's. I would say high 70's is a good number for this C4S. This car has all the right options (PDK give or take).
Thanks for the input. I value all every opinion and data point I can get.

vodkag 03-14-2019 02:25 PM

Thats quite a bit of coins to ask for a non pdk non cpo car

i would say 72k to 75k

Bob Z. 03-14-2019 08:21 PM

Manual cars are harder to find and if the OP is like me, and a few others here, I would not be driving my 991.2 if it had the PDK. If you really like the car and considering it has low miles and a manual, upper $70s would be fair. Most people here expect to steal cars but realistically the seller is probably not that motivated and since there are not many cars like it he is probably willing to wait for the right buyer. If you have a very tight budget the price may matter more but there have been a lot of people posting here that ask the same kinds of questions, drag their feet and find it sold when they decide it was worth it to them.


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