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Old 03-01-2019 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Pavegeno928
The 2014 50th was the precursor to the 2015 and beyond 991.1 GTS. They are the same car mechanically. The 50th has the exclusive 50th options and limited build. Hands down, the 50th will be the more valuable. The 25th and 40th don't seem to command a premium, and nor will the 60th be as big of a splash. The next "valuable" anniversary model will be a 75th. Lord willing I'm still here, I will purchase one.
I think you got it exactly right. To me the 991 was more than just "the next 911"- and the 991/50 is the ultimate expression of the design. And besides: the wheels!
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I'm just glad to call my own a 2016 991.1 GTS (cab). For sure, the 50th will be more valuable someday but I could care less. I have the same car minus the hard top, a few interior/exterior trim bits and and the "limited edition" badge. Besides, I'm never selling the car anyway, so its "value" to others is moot.
Old 03-01-2019 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Pavegeno928
It is a lot of fun but you really have to be on your toes. It seemed that the unlimited sections really averaged about 100-110 mph with the mix of traffic. You could comfortably cruise at 125 mph. Once you pushed above 140, it got interesting...the drivers were far more disciplined than here as you have heard, but people still pulled out into the left lane. On that run where I hit 196 mph, I still had a few hundred RPM left and was wanting to hit 200mph, but a vehicle pulled out on me resulting in a full ABS slow down to about 90 mph. The steel brakes are amazing. No fade after multiple high-speed slow downs. I'm over 50K miles on the original pads and rotors though I expect the pad lights to come on this year. Also, going above about 140 mph really sucks down the gas. I made a lot of Salzburg/Stuttgart or Berchtesgaden/Stuttgart runs and you could make it in a tank of gas. However, if you were cruising above 140 mph, you had to add a gas stop which essentially caused the trip to take longer than going slower. Totally worth it, though!
Totally agree with your assessment of the Abahn driving. I rented a Porsche Drive 4GTS last summer and had a blast. At speeds over 130, the highway gets eaten up pretty quickly and you really have to stay on your toes. I was also cutoff at over 130 with a truck pulling into the left lane. Terrific brakes, it was a non-event. Not ashamed to admit that my max speed was 150 mph, as I've never driven that fast, my first rule was not to do anything stupid. It was amazing how absolutely safe and ordinary 100-125 mph felt. Eighty two bucks of fuel slurped down in a 250 mile day...so fun, so worth it. Put it on your bucket list, but just be careful.
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Why is this even a question?
Beats me.
Old 03-02-2019 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Pavegeno928
Yep. No one would want to buy mine. I've run the engine too hard for most collectors. 250 RPM below redline in 6th gear on the Autobahn a few years back and hit 196 mph/315 kph. And I've driven it in the rain (gasp), ice (gasp), snow (gasp), and park it in regular parking spots, even tight ones (gasp and pass out).

I love this picture.

How did you get the vMax to show up there?
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CAR>option>Personal Settings>Data Field 4>Max. Speed (v max.)
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Old 03-02-2019 | 04:25 PM
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While 50th would demand more money due to more limited production, for those who feel special about that, I personally prefer the look of a nicely optioned GTS. Rest is the same anyway.
Old 03-02-2019 | 07:26 PM
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don't know which will be worth more and don't really care but i'd take a GTS - i never really liked the looks of the 50th and the badge on the back always looked tacky to me.
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Originally Posted by Pavegeno928
It is a lot of fun but you really have to be on your toes. It seemed that the unlimited sections really averaged about 100-110 mph with the mix of traffic. You could comfortably cruise at 125 mph. Once you pushed above 140, it got interesting...the drivers were far more disciplined than here as you have heard, but people still pulled out into the left lane. On that run where I hit 196 mph, I still had a few hundred RPM left and was wanting to hit 200mph, but a vehicle pulled out on me resulting in a full ABS slow down to about 90 mph. The steel brakes are amazing. No fade after multiple high-speed slow downs. I'm over 50K miles on the original pads and rotors though I expect the pad lights to come on this year. Also, going above about 140 mph really sucks down the gas. I made a lot of Salzburg/Stuttgart or Berchtesgaden/Stuttgart runs and you could make it in a tank of gas. However, if you were cruising above 140 mph, you had to add a gas stop which essentially caused the trip to take longer than going slower. Totally worth it, though!
Hit 130 in my 997 and the front got too squirly for me. Knew my limits and had to pull back. 197? Hats off to you.

Agree the 50th will be worth more. Hope to add one to the stable or a 356.
Old 03-03-2019 | 01:08 AM
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Looked at another way, if you want a 50th and can't afford it and/or can't find one to your liking, why not pick up a 991.1 GTS to your liking? Pretty much the exact same car, minus the badge and the cosmetic tweaks, but it can be had for less money.
Old 03-03-2019 | 02:17 AM
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50th is the coolest 991, except for maybe the R
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Originally Posted by Porsch
don't know which will be worth more and don't really care but i'd take a GTS - i never really liked the looks of the 50th and the badge on the back always looked tacky to me.

Having owned several 356 with the same badging...most prominently my first one...a 1964 bali blue coupe super 90...not only do I get the history on my cars badge but the rarety of it and the way it looks is something I really like.
Old 03-03-2019 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by kellen


Hit 130 in my 997 and the front got too squirly for me. Knew my limits and had to pull back. 197? Hats off to you.

Agree the 50th will be worth more. Hope to add one to the stable or a 356.
Car was rock-solid at 190+. Sounds like you have an alignment or tire issue as 130 is not fast for that car. My 88 was rock-solid at its top speed in the low 140s.
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Originally Posted by Pavegeno928
CAR>option>Personal Settings>Data Field 4>Max. Speed (v max.)
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Thanks! Always discovering new things on the car even after 3 years of ownership.
Old 03-03-2019 | 10:32 AM
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I looked at used 50th anniversary cars closely before pulling the trigger and ordering my GTS new. It was a tough decision. LOVE the 50th, my favorite 991 except for the 60th PCA cars.


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