991.1 Power Steering Plus - Should I get it???
01-23-2020 | 09:41 AM
#31
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I didn’t notice any difference over 40 and honestly didn’t notice very much at parking lot speeds. Standard steering is very high boost without PSP. Have no idea why anyone wants this option. It seems to be one of the rare options that I’ve heard of way more people paying to remove vs number of people adding later...which is also easily done.
01-23-2020 | 12:18 PM
#32
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01-23-2020 | 02:47 PM
#34
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I didn’t notice any difference over 40 and honestly didn’t notice very much at parking lot speeds. Standard steering is very high boost without PSP. Have no idea why anyone wants this option. It seems to be one of the rare options that I’ve heard of way more people paying to remove vs number of people adding later...which is also easily done.
Even when this software is inactive/suppressed, it may still have some impact on the feel.
When Porsche went to electric steering in the 991, road feel was definitely reduced. In my opinion, the purity that was lost in connection to the road is made up for in the increased precision of the steering. However, PSP destroys that trade-off equation. It feels completely disconnected, inorganic, and, IMO, destroys the car. In Porsche's configurator it's listed under the "Performance" options heading, and I have no clue why. A lot of people think that means it has a performance benefit, and unfortunately a lot of salespeople don't really understand what it is so they don't properly inform clients on what it is. In short, all that PSP really does is soften the steering - think Buick type feel. With, or without PSP, if you have sport chrono, and have the Sport+ button activated, one of the things that happens is the steering becomes more direct. On a 911 with PSP and sport chrono, even that is still too soft. It just doesn't feel "right" for the car - it's artificial and turn-in is not precise or constant; in a way it's slightly unpredictable. I feel like it almost induces understeer. If someone can make a performance argument for it to me, I'm always open to the possibility that I'm wrong, and I'm all ears.
Do you know if the steering feel on my spec car would actually improve by coding out PSP?
Thanks!
01-25-2020 | 07:28 PM
#37
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I had a 2013 C2 for 4 months without PSP, and it got totaled so I replaced with exact same model but this one has PSP.
Apart from slightly lighter steering at parking speeds I cannot tell the difference at all, so I see no reason to have it coded out.
Both cars have excellent steering feel in my opinion, especially considering it’s electric power steering.
Apart from slightly lighter steering at parking speeds I cannot tell the difference at all, so I see no reason to have it coded out.
Both cars have excellent steering feel in my opinion, especially considering it’s electric power steering.
01-28-2020 | 06:54 AM
#39
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As I tell anyone ordering a 911 - it's your car and unless it yellow with a red interior, there is no right or wrong way to build it - what I like isn't necessarily what you like and that's ok - but please don't order the car with PSP. If I was the GM I would have a rule that no 911 better show up on the lot as a car for stock (non-client order) with PSP.
Just my opinion, for what it's worth.
Whats wrong with yellow and red? I think it worked better with speed yellow than racing yellow.
