991.2 Carrera S turbocharger (?) Issue need help..
#16
Really shocked to see it can be as short as two years. Wow!
#17
#18
Maybe I am misunderstanding this, but you wrote:
“ I know that turbochargers can burn some oil so I actually did like 3-4 refills of about 300 to 400 ml of porsche recommended 0w40 synthetic oil...”
So you got a low oil message and you filled the oil up with up to 1,5 liter? After which the smoking issue started.
Is it just me or does a 1,5 liter refill seems way to much?
“ I know that turbochargers can burn some oil so I actually did like 3-4 refills of about 300 to 400 ml of porsche recommended 0w40 synthetic oil...”
So you got a low oil message and you filled the oil up with up to 1,5 liter? After which the smoking issue started.
Is it just me or does a 1,5 liter refill seems way to much?
The electronic measurement never showed my oil being too high and after the refills it was around middle , so I guess it wasn't too much oil.
When I got the vehicle they told me I will need oil refill after 20k kilometers....
the smoking started because there was probably a leak of oil or else I wouldn't get any message to add oil or get white smoke on startup
I did a 1400 kms drive within Europe for a job and after that the problems started for not apparent reason... I NEVER pushed the car in that trip.
besides that I was just driving it for small routes in city or highway.
I just did around 3-4 thousand kms :/
So I guess there was a leakage from turbo because it's not normal to get messages every 150-200kms...
#19
it never was more than middle and then after I was doing 150 to 200 kms I was getting messages that the oil is low and needed again to refill.
I was also getting sometimes white smoke...
after this situation happened for like 3-4 times I understood that this wasn't normal at all..
#20
for example I used 300ml once , another around 500ml , another around 200ml and so on and was always checking where the electronic measurement was getting so as not to refill.
Plus as far as I know there is a too much oil error message so even if by accident I'd put too much oil I guess I would get a warning message.
I dont even get a CEL
#21
I tried to see if there was a general warranty for Europe since I didn't know his country. Honestly I would have guessed the standard warranty is Europe was better than what we see in the States. I seem to recall someone here talking about the warranty in their country being bonkers long. Can't remember which though.
Really shocked to see it can be as short as two years. Wow!
Really shocked to see it can be as short as two years. Wow!
I bought it through a German Porsche dealership
#22
so car is 100% under porsche approved program.
#23
Former Vendor
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#24
I didn't put too much oil at once , i was refilling little by little each time I was getting messages.
for example I used 300ml once , another around 500ml , another around 200ml and so on and was always checking where the electronic measurement was getting so as not to refill.
Plus as far as I know there is a too much oil error message so even if by accident I'd put too much oil I guess I would get a warning message.
I dont even get a CEL
for example I used 300ml once , another around 500ml , another around 200ml and so on and was always checking where the electronic measurement was getting so as not to refill.
Plus as far as I know there is a too much oil error message so even if by accident I'd put too much oil I guess I would get a warning message.
I dont even get a CEL
#25
Maybe the electronic measuring is/was incorrect/faulty. I have put on more than 6000 km on my new GTS and no oil fill message so far. Even in the increments you describe (I would not call them small) you probably still put in way more oil than needed. Did the message not indicate how much oil to add? I have driven a 993 turbo for 8 years and luckily you still could check the oil level yourself manually. On these modern engines I guess Porsche didn’t think that would be needed anymore. If these modern turbo engines are anything like the old ones you better keep the oil level on the low side rather than to high.
Not saying that is the case here. Just that it is possible based on the numbers.
#26
This is likely the drain line on one of the turbo sumps... Or at least that's my bet. They have a built in check valve that prevents oil from back feeding into the turbocharger after shutdown. If the valve goes back, or some debris gets stuck in there, you will can have mysterious an inconsistent smoky startups. I have a couple of the passenger side drain lines here that we used for product testing. If you need a part number or if the dealer doesn't want to fix it I have one with zero miles I can let go for the cost of shipping. If that is in fact what's wrong
but you said if the dealer doesnt want to fix ?
what do you mean by that ? They have to fix it since the car doesnt run properly
#27
According to the owner's manual the difference between the minimum mark and maximum mark is 1.4 quarts. If 1.2 to 1.6 liters was added over time I could see that resulting in overfilling.
Not saying that is the case here. Just that it is possible based on the numbers.
Not saying that is the case here. Just that it is possible based on the numbers.
whenever I was adding oil I was doing that ONLY after I was getting the message that I need to add oil.
the manual says it very clearly that you need to add oil ASAP when you get the minimum level
also whenever I was adding oil , I was always adding as much as needed so as the electronic meter would be around HALF full just to be safe.
BUT AFTER 150 or 200 kms I was STILL getting message that I needed to add oil
so after 3-4 refills and incidents with white smoke I just stopped driving it
I've heard cases where some people add like 1 litres of oil every 400 or so kms but they never get white smoke..
I think there is a leakage or that the turbocharger has a problem and it burns the oil because the right turbocharger as seen in pic , had oil in its external surface which the left one clearly didn't...
and even with possible overfill I guess I would get a warning message as the manual says and even if that wouldn't work in guess half or even 1 liter more oil would destroy a turbocharger with just 300-400 kms..
Ps http://www.porscheownersmanuals.com/...nction-display
it's very very clear on what they propose in cases of minimum oil or maximum oil..
and just to be safe I NEVER put too much oil I was putting so much as the meter was just in half way not even top.
I remember clearly that the meter was telling me to add 1.3 liters but that seemed too huge amount and a bit risky so I was filling like 400ml or so just to get the meter in half to be safe
Last edited by Weskers05; 10-31-2018 at 06:10 PM.
#28
Three Wheelin'
Please don't try to over think this issue. Just schedule a visit to your Porsche service department. They will fix it under warranty.
#29
Rennlist Member
I don't think his car is under warranty any more (see above as terms are not always the same as in US). Either way, I would take it in to be fixed to take care of the issue or it possibly getting worse or causing harm.
#30
New Porsche’s in Europe come with 2 years factory warranty. After which you can extend the Porsche approved warranty with 12 or 24 months.
As I understand from topicstarter it is under Porsche approved warranty. So either the car is still under factory warranty or under extended Porsche approved warranty.
As I understand from topicstarter it is under Porsche approved warranty. So either the car is still under factory warranty or under extended Porsche approved warranty.