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Old 09-27-2018, 01:26 PM
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All cars have some failure rates even at low mileage -- but I do wonder if it's higher than normal on PDK.

Does the 911 C2/S/GTS have a different PDK than the TT/S/GT3? Or is it all software?
Old 09-27-2018, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by AAK GTS
I was just quoted $4525 4yrs/48k miles. What were you quoted? Thinking of shopping the dealers too. My factory warranty is good till 8/2019.

4/48K through the person i got quotes from was $4278.00, so that's pretty close unless there's other fees involved that I was told about.

5/60k was $5195
Old 09-27-2018, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by guab
All cars have some failure rates even at low mileage -- but I do wonder if it's higher than normal on PDK.
This is the question...
Old 09-27-2018, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mdrums
Glad it worked out for you....I had a 2012 997 GTS once and PDK developed a tiny small leak. I would never had noticed it but i was under the car cleaning the suspension, chassis and rear axels and notice a tiny oil stain. Took it to the dealer and a seal from PDK to rear housing was leaking a tiny bit. You can’t replace the gasket seal..Porsche makes you replace the whole PDK transmission!!! Dealer gave me a rash of crap because I tracked the car but after arguing for a few days PCNA did it all under warranty.
This is sickening. I would argue that it's an illegal transfer of wealth, frankly a robbery. Thinly disguised as monopolising repairs through proprietary technology and replacing entire components rather than individual parts.
Old 09-27-2018, 06:32 PM
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Let's see. PDK has been around since the 997.2 and 987.2, right? There should be some statistics about their failures by now. That transmission has been around since 2009?
Old 09-27-2018, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bemo
This is sickening. I would argue that it's an illegal transfer of wealth, frankly a robbery. Thinly disguised as monopolising repairs through proprietary technology and replacing entire components rather than individual parts.
Yes and no. Did I want my PDK shipped to Germany (or some authorized US service center if one exists) so they can crack the cases and replace only what was probably the issue and then shipped back to throw into the car? I say no. I asked my service guy what I was getting and he said that in the replacement PDKs they replace all the critical internals. I believe that, as it makes no economic sense for Porsche or anybody to inspect and measure hundreds of the other key components to make sure that they are all within spec before putting a trans back in service. That means you're getting a fairly new box. And it's on the shelf waiting for you. There are few reasonable alternatives to that approach. Maybe AAMCO Transmissions?

As for a transfer of wealth, come on. If you are that socially conscious, next time buy a Hyundai and take the left over $100k and give it to charity. Or just keep it in the bank.

I would agree about the ridiculous cost, which I think is your point(?) IMO, what we need is horror stories about how Porsche did NOT stand behind the PDK and left the customer holding most or all of the bag. That is something we need to document and be up in arms about if in fact that is happening.

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Old 09-27-2018, 07:29 PM
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Question...If I / we are paying for a FULL replacement of the PDK, do WE / I get to KEEP the "bad" tranny??

If I'm paying $20+K for a new / rebuilt replacement, I want to keep the old one. Not give it back for them to rebuilt and make the entire amount on again.

That's what I see going on here.
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Old 09-27-2018, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by HD2pct
I would agree about the ridiculous cost, which I think is your point(?) IMO, what we need is horror stories about how Porsche did NOT stand behind the PDK and left the customer holding most or all of the bag. That is something we need to document and be up in arms about if in fact that is happening.

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^This.

I'd love to know the figures on this.

Old 09-27-2018, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Swole
If I'm paying $20+K for a new / rebuilt replacement, I want to keep the old one. Not give it back for them to rebuilt and make the entire amount on again.
I believe legally you'd be entitled to keep it as it is yours after all.
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Originally Posted by visitador
Let's see. PDK has been around since the 997.2 and 987.2, right? There should be some statistics about their failures by now. That transmission has been around since 2009?
I respectfully disagree.
My point is about the right to repair simple parts, not have to change the entire transmission over a leaky rubber gasket or a broken switch that impacts the reverse gear lights.
Do you buy a new watch when the battery dies?
A new house when the living room lights go?
You see how this goes?
I don't confuse repairs with replacing components when 99% of their parts are fully functional. It's unnecessary and yes it does increase the costs astronomically.
Old 09-27-2018, 10:42 PM
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^^^ Bemo, I was just trying to figure out how prevalent are PDK failures
Old 09-28-2018, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by .2PDK
I believe legally you'd be entitled to keep it as it is yours after all.
Not if the repair cost is after credit for the core being returned to the factory.
Old 09-28-2018, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by aCayenneFan
Not if the repair cost is after credit for the core being returned to the factory.
Of course, I would love to get a full breakdown of those figures...
Old 09-28-2018, 08:42 AM
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No where did the OP state he received a core credit. If he had to give Porsche his tranny without any credit I would have a serious problem with that.
Old 09-28-2018, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by aCayenneFan
Not if the repair cost is after credit for the core being returned to the factory.
Better not cost $20K and still require a core...That would be robbery. Although I wouldn't be surprised.


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