and the loner vehicle is.....
09-21-2018, 12:55 PM
#31
So how many 911s should a dealership have in its fleet to handle loaner usage?
That is inventory that could otherwise be sold but instead is relegated to loaner duty. Then the dealership will have to see at a steep discount (warranty punched and we all know the consensus here about buying “executive demos”).
These are all “costs” and believe it or not get passed onto us indirectly. That cost is much higher than you would think. (Depreciation, fuel, maintenance, insurance, capital costs, opportunity cost of discounted sale, etc.)
Don’t get me wrong, I’d prefer to have a 911 as a loaner too....but I understand the business behind. No different than anywhere else when you buy the upper end of the spectrum. Buy a LC500 from Lexus....you aren’t getting a LC for loaner....buy a Mercedes GTS you aren’t getting anything similar as a loaner...BMW M3...likely not getting one of those either. Corvette, same story.
Reason some one get the 718 as a loaner is they can’t sell them....
That is inventory that could otherwise be sold but instead is relegated to loaner duty. Then the dealership will have to see at a steep discount (warranty punched and we all know the consensus here about buying “executive demos”).
These are all “costs” and believe it or not get passed onto us indirectly. That cost is much higher than you would think. (Depreciation, fuel, maintenance, insurance, capital costs, opportunity cost of discounted sale, etc.)
Don’t get me wrong, I’d prefer to have a 911 as a loaner too....but I understand the business behind. No different than anywhere else when you buy the upper end of the spectrum. Buy a LC500 from Lexus....you aren’t getting a LC for loaner....buy a Mercedes GTS you aren’t getting anything similar as a loaner...BMW M3...likely not getting one of those either. Corvette, same story.
Reason some one get the 718 as a loaner is they can’t sell them....
09-21-2018, 01:40 PM
#32
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I usually get Cayenne's, Mecan's and they actually had me have fun with a Boxster manual trans. Worst was I had to get a Camary since I didn't have a Scheduled visit... like we all have scheduled visits for big issues that just arise on these cars.
09-21-2018, 01:59 PM
#33
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Originally Posted by Needsdecaf
WTF? Used cars? That's a new one.
What dealer in Houston did you use?
What dealer in Houston did you use?
The one in Durhole (actually Cary or Raleigh, I forgot) I can't remember the name.
A past SA that used to work in the local dealer was really good, true car guy. 2 years back he had me on a graphite blue 991.2 S w/ sport package, sunroof delete and PDCC. I love my convertible, but that car was so fun to drive... he's gone and so is the service quality.
09-21-2018, 03:30 PM
#35
Same here, no problems from my perspective. At worst case they will pull from the Jag dealership they own as well. But that’s typically only if they mess up and overbook the cars. (Doesn’t typically happen)
09-21-2018, 03:42 PM
#37
Now, if the complaint was that he brought in a Cayenne that is used to haul stuff, and all they had was a little sports car, I would understand. Or if he used the backseats of the 991 to carry kids, and they only have a two seater. Again, valid complaint. But 911 to 718. Hmm....
09-21-2018, 04:50 PM
#38
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Huh? OP DID get a Porsche loaner and is still complaining about it. But since it was a lowly PORSCHE 718 (emphasis that it was still a Porsche), he wasn't satisfied. Hence the "a little spoiled" comment. Do I expect a GT3 or even a 911 when I bring my car in? No. What about a GT2RS owner? Or a 918 owner? Should they expect an "equivalent" car? I'm just happy when the dealer doesn't send me to Enterprise lol (more of the hassle than the car). And to your point, I actually like it when I get to try a boxster or a panny.
Now, if the complaint was that he brought in a Cayenne that is used to haul stuff, and all they had was a little sports car, I would understand. Or if he used the backseats of the 991 to carry kids, and they only have a two seater. Again, valid complaint. But 911 to 718. Hmm....
Now, if the complaint was that he brought in a Cayenne that is used to haul stuff, and all they had was a little sports car, I would understand. Or if he used the backseats of the 991 to carry kids, and they only have a two seater. Again, valid complaint. But 911 to 718. Hmm....
09-21-2018, 04:54 PM
#39
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I have a C4 GTS, what should hey have for my loaner?
Whatever they would like you to buy next. A newer-gen GTS if one exists, a Panamera or a high-end Cayenne if you don't already have one of those. What's your S.O. driving these days, for that matter? The dealership should make it their business to know.
The follow up is then what business purpose does it serve to then have to discount the demo when they easily could have sold for full price?
You might as well ask why they bother spending money on any other form of advertising.
09-21-2018, 05:17 PM
#40
E.g. my dealership here has no trouble selling every 911 they order (or customer orders of course). Pulling and giving up future sales (they sell all of them with no issue) to create a fleet for loaners for the sole purpose of providing those with 911s already with loaners does not help them sell more 911s. (Remember they already sell all that come in....there problem is Porsche limiting supply....even worse for GT cars)
To add, maybe my sample is small (given friends with Porsche’s, myself or the lack of real complaints on the forums) this doesn’t seem like a universal “problem” of ownership.
edit: They know I’m eyeing a GT as the next 911 if I was to purchase another.....however they don’t really need to do anything or need me to demo one to sell those.
09-21-2018, 05:26 PM
#41
09-21-2018, 05:26 PM
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09-21-2018, 05:33 PM
#44
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I see your point but the comparison in my mind is not the same given the allocations for 911s are finite. Given a relatively limited supply that frankly they can and do sell, how beneficial would it be to pull a fair number of them to create a fleet of loaners? (One needs more cars in the fleet than you would suspect)
Remember, these guys get $300 for an oil change. They aren't in the free-loaner business, they're in the "Rent our car for $300 a day and we'll throw in a few bottles of Mobil One to sweeten the deal" business.
09-21-2018, 05:40 PM
#45
im just happy they provide loaners! i really dont care what they give me as long as it runs, is problem free, and clean. i dont need a 911, i already know how it drives, i just need a car to get back home/work, if they give me a 911 or any other porsche than it's a plus!
@vodkag, audi told me the same thing many years ago, your A8 is from 2004, it is now 2010, no loaner for you. that's just terrible.
@vodkag, audi told me the same thing many years ago, your A8 is from 2004, it is now 2010, no loaner for you. that's just terrible.