Buying out of state
#61
#62
"Its been 60 days and I still don't have registration, license plates, a title, or anything that even proves I own the car."...not entirely true. You have a receipt (bill of sale).
Basically the dealer never had the title of the car in his hand. The bank has it. He had to use your money to pay the bank and get the title released to him. From that point forward the remaining processes will kick in.
It does take a couple of months to get this done when dealing with so many parties. He should have been forthcoming and told you this up front. That is where he dropped the ball.
Going to an attorney will not help, nor will being impatient. In another week the paperwork will be in your mailbox. Been there done that.
Basically the dealer never had the title of the car in his hand. The bank has it. He had to use your money to pay the bank and get the title released to him. From that point forward the remaining processes will kick in.
It does take a couple of months to get this done when dealing with so many parties. He should have been forthcoming and told you this up front. That is where he dropped the ball.
Going to an attorney will not help, nor will being impatient. In another week the paperwork will be in your mailbox. Been there done that.
#63
I thought it was, too; but after digging a bit, discovered CA will issue a one trip permit.
This is how it goes:
On this reference for out of state registration, there is a boxed "note." https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/wcm/co...=AJPERES&CVID=
That note sez a one time permit may be issued by the dealer if he submits the paperwork in accordance with CVC 4003. CVC 4003 is as follows.
One Trip Permit(CVC §4003)
A one trip permit may be issued for a fee, in lieu of California registration, to move a vehicle required to be registered:- When unladen, for one continuous trip from a place within California to a place in or outside California or from outside California to a place in California (by the most direct route).
- For participation as a vehicular float or display in a lawful parade or exhibition for one round trip from one place to another. The total round trip cannot exceed 100 miles and must be completed within 60 days.
#64
Burning Brakes
I can't pile onto the wows in Cali.
But, I purchased a car in February from Florida, and shipped to my home in Oregon. ...I am still waiting (it is now basically Sept) for my title and plates. (But, there is a light at the end of the tunnel.)
Bought car, paid for title/plates and (newly instituted) Oregon out-of-state-0.5%-tax... some $1,300... dealer mailed paperwork to Oregon DOT. I then made the mistake of paying off the loan... bank asked for title paperwork back (to issue 'clean title')... Oregon DOT sent entire packet, including $300 check back to bank... Bank put their hands up and sent me the packet of everything... I had to register with Oregon to pay the Tax a second time, then went to DMV to order my title and plates (and pay the fee all over again)... finally got some money back ($880?) from FL dealer on the tax they never paid, and a small portion of the title paperwork processing... I am still waiting for the bank to reimburse me the $300 title. Plates should be here by November.
Safe to say, I'll avoid buying out of state in the future. :-)
But, I purchased a car in February from Florida, and shipped to my home in Oregon. ...I am still waiting (it is now basically Sept) for my title and plates. (But, there is a light at the end of the tunnel.)
Bought car, paid for title/plates and (newly instituted) Oregon out-of-state-0.5%-tax... some $1,300... dealer mailed paperwork to Oregon DOT. I then made the mistake of paying off the loan... bank asked for title paperwork back (to issue 'clean title')... Oregon DOT sent entire packet, including $300 check back to bank... Bank put their hands up and sent me the packet of everything... I had to register with Oregon to pay the Tax a second time, then went to DMV to order my title and plates (and pay the fee all over again)... finally got some money back ($880?) from FL dealer on the tax they never paid, and a small portion of the title paperwork processing... I am still waiting for the bank to reimburse me the $300 title. Plates should be here by November.
Safe to say, I'll avoid buying out of state in the future. :-)
#65
Rennlist Member
Yes, when you buy a car out of state you are taxed at the rate of your home city/state.
"Even though you're buying a car from out of state, you'll pay the sales tax to the state in which you'll register the car—i.e. your home state."
https://www.dmv.org/buy-sell/used-ca...t-of-state.php
"Even though you're buying a car from out of state, you'll pay the sales tax to the state in which you'll register the car—i.e. your home state."
https://www.dmv.org/buy-sell/used-ca...t-of-state.php
Still no license plates, registration or title. I have to say, PCNA has not been any help. They say it's a dealer issue and they are willing to contact them for an update but that's all.
To add insult to injury, SiriusXM sent me a letter saying that my free trial has already ended.
To add insult to injury, SiriusXM sent me a letter saying that my free trial has already ended.
It appears the dealer is pointing the finger at the service company they use to communicate with CT DMV. If I were you, I'd try finding out from the CA dealer (Service Manager) the name of the company they hired to communicate with CT DMV and speak directly with that service provider. I would also apprise the Service Manager of how poorly, in this instance, his staff has performed.
You have the bill of sale showing you own the car and that you paid CT $9,000. I'd take that to the CT DMV and ask them if they have, as of yet, processed any paper work on your VIN. It may be your CT paper work is in the mail somewhere.
You might be able to pry a temp tag out of them.
Good luck with it
You have the bill of sale showing you own the car and that you paid CT $9,000. I'd take that to the CT DMV and ask them if they have, as of yet, processed any paper work on your VIN. It may be your CT paper work is in the mail somewhere.
You might be able to pry a temp tag out of them.
Good luck with it
What has worked for me as you can see above and other posters has been 1) making it VERY clear that I DO NOT want nor need them to register my car for em [when buying out of state] as I understand the process more than they do, 2) insisting that I am overnight-ed all of the paperwork needed to register the car or in the case of my daughter's car [which I flew in and drove back] that they give it to me and have it ready when I do all the paperwork 3) requesting a 10 day transit tag if I have to drive the car back myself [daughter's Audi - cost me $30] or temp tag [son's BMW - $45] so I do have something that I can use to actually drive the vehicle AND also use with my home DMV if needed, and 4) maintain a close relationship with your local DMV or title agency. I have used the same agency and the same guy there for the past 5 cars that we've bought in 2 different states now outside my home state of WA. I know his name and hell he now knows me pretty much by name and vehicles...so when I call asking for a registration quote he usually knows the situation and can intervene on my behalf if needed [both at the dealer or their title agency] and he has called to make sure things are correct and moving. That has been the most useful part of things I would say as the problem usually ends up with the title service at the selling dealership and/or the selling state DMV where the dealership has registered the car once they purchased it from prior owner or manufacturer to be sold. They often seem to not know what the rules are for the out of state buyer and are less inclined it seems to ask so when in doubt delays and errors just occur that keep your tags/registration MIA and your car sitting in your garage man.
Good luck with this and let us know...plus post pics of your car man!
#67
Doubtful. OP purchased from a dealer that seems to be ethically challenged. PEC should operate completely by-the-book.
#68
Rennlist Member
Twin, I bought my 991 in Houston (paid cash), collected it a PEC Atlanta (I know, not exactly the same), and drove it home to Colorado. What Porsche was specific about was me bringing my DL, proof of insurance, and temporary tags (I got these from the Houston dealer). My dealer asked for a DL scan ahead of time, and sent duplicate temp tags to both me at home and to PEC.
#69
Racer
Thread Starter
There is hope. A supervisor from the DMV has email copies of the paperwork and is supposedly working on it. Meanwhile if I can't drive it, at least I can clean it. Amazing how much junk is coming up with the clay bar after only 2200 miles.
#70
Twin, I bought my 991 in Houston (paid cash), collected it a PEC Atlanta (I know, not exactly the same), and drove it home to Colorado. What Porsche was specific about was me bringing my DL, proof of insurance, and temporary tags (I got these from the Houston dealer). My dealer asked for a DL scan ahead of time, and sent duplicate temp tags to both me at home and to PEC.
I have insurance on other cars but will not add my new 911 until the day I receive it. I’ll see if the insurance company can get me some documentation in advance. Also will ask my dealer about temporary tags.
#71
Racer
Thread Starter
I'm happy to say that this long personal nightmare is over. The plates came today.
In the postmortem, the titling service initially sent in paperwork with the wrong insurance card. This was corrected on July 27, but they submitted the application for title without a signature. (They were given limited power of attorney to sign and register). I suspect the DMV tossed it out. It took a lot of phone calls and emails to find somebody who was willing to fix it.
In the postmortem, the titling service initially sent in paperwork with the wrong insurance card. This was corrected on July 27, but they submitted the application for title without a signature. (They were given limited power of attorney to sign and register). I suspect the DMV tossed it out. It took a lot of phone calls and emails to find somebody who was willing to fix it.
#73
Pro
Congrats...now please just drive...and keep driving your car (show us pics).
Get all that frustration out by pushing the car's limit (on track...lol).
This is an excellent thread for reference...great tips by other users on here. It is valid as it helps everyone who wants to buy a car out of state.
Get all that frustration out by pushing the car's limit (on track...lol).
This is an excellent thread for reference...great tips by other users on here. It is valid as it helps everyone who wants to buy a car out of state.
#74
Racer
Thread Starter
I hope it can be of some use to the community. Sometimes I feel like I'm living a Berenstein Bears book "how not to...Buy a car out of state!"
"Thanks dad, that was a very good lesson for me! May I drive it now? "
I did get to pick my son up from kindergarten and redline in first and second gear today. What a thrill for us both!
I couldn't sleep last night knowing that FedEx might come today. I stayed up and finished the paint correction and wax. (Before
After
"Thanks dad, that was a very good lesson for me! May I drive it now? "
I did get to pick my son up from kindergarten and redline in first and second gear today. What a thrill for us both!
I couldn't sleep last night knowing that FedEx might come today. I stayed up and finished the paint correction and wax. (Before
After
Last edited by n8kruger; 09-06-2018 at 10:37 PM.
#75
Rennlist Member
Congrats...as I said most of the time the problem is with the titling agency and folks not understanding what is needed by the out of state DMV and dealership. One party is on the wrong sheet of music so to speak and so this is the result. Glad it got fixed. Enjoy the car man!