Always Craving A Faster Model?
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Anyway, I will say, if you buy less than the best, you will never be happy if you want the best and you will end up in a costly series of upgrades getting what you wanted in the first place. So figure out what you want, and don’t just buy something because it’s all you can afford right now. A lot of it is appreciating a vehicle for what it is. No modern Porsche is slow and all are great fun, so if you are going to be happy with say a 991.1 base, great. If you are always thinking you wanted an S/GTS/Turbo/GT3/GT3RS/GT2RS/Speedster etc. save up and get that instead.
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In that case, I'm thinking it would mean getting an S. I have a kid, and as a daily driver I really need the rear seats so it can be at least somewhat practical, so that rules out the GT3/GT2. I wasn't a fan of the new GTS because I don't really care for Alcantara and I'm worried SPASM would make the ride too uncomfortable as a DD. The Turbo/Turbo S seem amazing, but they're way out of my price range unless it's a much older model, and it almost seems like a waste to get a Turbo instead of a GT3 because one depreciates like a rock, and the other doesn't depreciate at all. Not a fan of a Cabrio because I'm not a huge fan of the look of the car with the roof down (hump back) and the Targa is beautiful but it does add a significant amount of weight and on top of it is fairly expensive.So that leaves the S as the sweet spot of practicality, and as a 2-3 year old CPO, in the realm of affordability, and also significantly faster than my Audi.
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I think what you are questioning is inherent to all car guys. I came from an Audi A5 Stage II and felt the car was somewhat powerful but not very sporty. I moved into a 911 C2 MT and after 1.5 years of ownership which i track occasionally, I can say that the car is enough power. Its a different experience when you are in a true sports car. One thing I do miss however, is the lower end torque and boost feeling/sound. If I were at your stage, i would think about the 991.2 base. The car is powerful, fun, agile basically everything you want from a car. Now back to the question, do you wish for more power? I would say thats always the case. Im looking into a Mclaren 570s or a TurboS at the moment because i want to be in a supercar for some reason, not because i want to go fast maybe for the option to go fast, who knows. Many will find that 350 - 400 hp on a proper chassis on the street is more than enough for the street and track.
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You will acclimate to the power of virtually any street car. What feels fast on day one won't necessarily feel fast on year 2. For me, it's much more satisfying to improve my driving (at the track) than just upgrading the power of the car. I've never had more fun driving that I have had in my 240hp 911...
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Not really here. I feel cars are just getting TOO fast, in the sense where it's all about marketing or making people feel more "endowed." Where can you use all that power? I drove a 550 HP Jag F Type and it was fun for a test drive, and I drove the p*ss out of it, but honestly getting into the 390 HP V6 version after felt a lot better and more usable and fun.
Considering my .1 base puts up faster times than a 997.2 GTS, and I can't safely wring out what it has to offer as is, what I'm craving is balance, and always more handling (though it's hard to top the handling as it is). Anything around a 4 second 0-60, mid 12 second 1/4 mile, 112+ MPH trap speed is a fast car to me, and more than I'll "need."
In this day and age with Tesla minivans doing 2.x second 0-60 and M5's doing 2.8's with 10.x second quarter miles. Power becomes magazine bragging rights to most, as I doubt more than 1% of those drivers ever get near reaching their cars potentials. I've never even gone WOT and called upon all of my 350 horses. Pretty soon every EV will be able to do a 1something 0-60. Therefore, I'm craving something back to the "roots" of driving. Just a connected experience.
Considering my .1 base puts up faster times than a 997.2 GTS, and I can't safely wring out what it has to offer as is, what I'm craving is balance, and always more handling (though it's hard to top the handling as it is). Anything around a 4 second 0-60, mid 12 second 1/4 mile, 112+ MPH trap speed is a fast car to me, and more than I'll "need."
In this day and age with Tesla minivans doing 2.x second 0-60 and M5's doing 2.8's with 10.x second quarter miles. Power becomes magazine bragging rights to most, as I doubt more than 1% of those drivers ever get near reaching their cars potentials. I've never even gone WOT and called upon all of my 350 horses. Pretty soon every EV will be able to do a 1something 0-60. Therefore, I'm craving something back to the "roots" of driving. Just a connected experience.
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Not really here. I feel cars are just getting TOO fast, in the sense where it's all about marketing or making people feel more "endowed." Where can you use all that power? I drove a 550 HP Jag F Type and it was fun for a test drive, and I drove the p*ss out of it, but honestly getting into the 390 HP V6 version after felt a lot better and more usable and fun.
Considering my .1 base puts up faster times than a 997.2 GTS, and I can't safely wring out what it has to offer as is, what I'm craving is balance, and always more handling (though it's hard to top the handling as it is). Anything around a 4 second 0-60, mid 12 second 1/4 mile, 112+ MPH trap speed is a fast car to me, and more than I'll "need."
In this day and age with Tesla minivans doing 2.x second 0-60 and M5's doing 2.8's with 10.x second quarter miles. Power becomes magazine bragging rights to most, as I doubt more than 1% of those drivers ever get near reaching their cars potentials. I've never even gone WOT and called upon all of my 350 horses. Pretty soon every EV will be able to do a 1something 0-60. Therefore, I'm craving something back to the "roots" of driving. Just a connected experience.
Considering my .1 base puts up faster times than a 997.2 GTS, and I can't safely wring out what it has to offer as is, what I'm craving is balance, and always more handling (though it's hard to top the handling as it is). Anything around a 4 second 0-60, mid 12 second 1/4 mile, 112+ MPH trap speed is a fast car to me, and more than I'll "need."
In this day and age with Tesla minivans doing 2.x second 0-60 and M5's doing 2.8's with 10.x second quarter miles. Power becomes magazine bragging rights to most, as I doubt more than 1% of those drivers ever get near reaching their cars potentials. I've never even gone WOT and called upon all of my 350 horses. Pretty soon every EV will be able to do a 1something 0-60. Therefore, I'm craving something back to the "roots" of driving. Just a connected experience.
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Not sure what kind of traffic you have where you live, but there are plenty of chances to go WOT here, pulling onto highways etc. I don't ever go particularly fast, but I like to accelerate. I love that rush, and since in any modern car it'll only last a couple of seconds before you get to the speed limit, I like those couple of seconds to feel as good as possible. ☺
I just think cars are getting to a point of power without fun. But that’s just me. I’m the same person who prefers to ride the revs up with a linear press of the gas pedal then flooring it for an all out burst.
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For OP, I’ve had a .1S for 4 years now and getting a faster car has never been an itch for me, even when swapping cars with my buddy’s 650hp Z06 (even though I have nothing bad to say about that car it’s great). Part of it may be the character of the NA engine (it acts like a much slower car down low with a much faster car always available higher in the rev range) but for me the big itch was for a manual since the PDK never scratched the fun to drive itch for me. The closest it comes is on the track but, that’s a rare thing for me. On the street I hate the PDK, I can stand to drive it if I keep it in “manual” but still it ruins the sensation of sports car involvement fun for me.
Finally been happy since I got another sports car with 3 pedals. Just my 2 cents. I like wringing out a car though... I even miss wringing out my 258 hp 986 boxster sometimes because you could actually drive it near it’s limits on curvy roads vs a 400 hp car where you really only can for a couple moments.
Finally been happy since I got another sports car with 3 pedals. Just my 2 cents. I like wringing out a car though... I even miss wringing out my 258 hp 986 boxster sometimes because you could actually drive it near it’s limits on curvy roads vs a 400 hp car where you really only can for a couple moments.
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I understand that. To me, for example, a 550 HP car wasn’t too fun. It just picked up speed TOO fast. There’s a limit to what I wanna do in my respective environment. The other week I took an on ramp in my car, wasn’t even going WOT, and still felt that rush from how quickly it picked up speed (as did my friend in the passenger seat who owns an ‘09 GTR, and was pleasantly impressed himself by the acceleration) that put a smile on my face for days (though it was the sound and rapid PDK shifts that above all resonated). That’s a very rare occurrence and even then, revving an engine out, hearing it, maybe being able to shift more than once is more valuable to me than some more tenths.
I just think cars are getting to a point of power without fun. But that’s just me. I’m the same person who prefers to ride the revs up with a linear press of the gas pedal then flooring it for an all out burst.
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More power on paper doesn't always equal more fun, for sure. I had a 600+ HP Huracan before the GTS, and even though on paper it was fast and more powerful, it wasn't fun. And honestly, it didn't feel that fast. And even though it sounded epic and had a high revving NA engine, that still didn't make it fun. It's so hard to define what makes a car fun, I don't really know what the secret ingredient is that I need.