991.2 Base Carrera Suspension Question
#1
Racer
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991.2 Base Carrera Suspension Question
Hey all, I hoping someone has some input or experience with this question. I just picked up a 2017 Carrera and after a few days of driving I feel like the suspension is a bit harsh or not real compliant over bumps. I know that the 'S' Carrera gets PASM as standard and PASM Sport as an option. I understand these may ride a bit better. I'm coming out of a 2016 Boxster Spyder and before that I had a 997 GT3RS which both had PASM I think. Granted I didn't use those as a daily drivers but they both seems less harsh believe it or not.
Any thoughts on a solution or shall i just deal with it? Anyone try this Dynamic Suspension Control from TPC racing? http://www.tpcracing.com/dsc.html
Any thoughts on a solution or shall i just deal with it? Anyone try this Dynamic Suspension Control from TPC racing? http://www.tpcracing.com/dsc.html
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farhanahussain (08-31-2021)
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Is the light is off on the suspension button?
And is the car new or preowned? If its used check the suspension for lowering springs.
And is the car new or preowned? If its used check the suspension for lowering springs.
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People think the 991.2 Carrera is "soft."
I've been testing Porsches for 20+ years, and believe me when I say the 991.2 Carrera is not soft. It is compliant, but firm. I notice it in situations where the body gets rocked back and forth laterally. I'd have to try them back to back, but I was surprised that the T with SPASM didn't feel all that different over lumps and bumps to my 991.2 Carrera. Was reading the latest Evo, and its tester seemed to agree. So I can see how a Boxster Spyder driver would see the 991.2 Carrera has firmer...because the Boxster's wheel base helps here and its dampers are very good too.
However: Not sure how I can see a 997 GT3 RS has less firm than a 991.2 Carrera. If your 991.2 Carrera really feels harsher in the Normal damper mode than a 997 RS, maybe something is amiss?
I've been testing Porsches for 20+ years, and believe me when I say the 991.2 Carrera is not soft. It is compliant, but firm. I notice it in situations where the body gets rocked back and forth laterally. I'd have to try them back to back, but I was surprised that the T with SPASM didn't feel all that different over lumps and bumps to my 991.2 Carrera. Was reading the latest Evo, and its tester seemed to agree. So I can see how a Boxster Spyder driver would see the 991.2 Carrera has firmer...because the Boxster's wheel base helps here and its dampers are very good too.
However: Not sure how I can see a 997 GT3 RS has less firm than a 991.2 Carrera. If your 991.2 Carrera really feels harsher in the Normal damper mode than a 997 RS, maybe something is amiss?
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farhanahussain (08-31-2021)
#4
Racer
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People think the 991.2 Carrera is "soft."
I've been testing Porsches for 20+ years, and believe me when I say the 991.2 Carrera is not soft. It is compliant, but firm. I notice it in situations where the body gets rocked back and forth laterally. I'd have to try them back to back, but I was surprised that the T with SPASM didn't feel all that different over lumps and bumps to my 991.2 Carrera. Was reading the latest Evo, and its tester seemed to agree. So I can see how a Boxster Spyder driver would see the 991.2 Carrera has firmer...because the Boxster's wheel base helps here and its dampers are very good too.
However: Not sure how I can see a 997 GT3 RS has less firm than a 991.2 Carrera. If your 991.2 Carrera really feels harsher in the Normal damper mode than a 997 RS, maybe something is amiss?
I've been testing Porsches for 20+ years, and believe me when I say the 991.2 Carrera is not soft. It is compliant, but firm. I notice it in situations where the body gets rocked back and forth laterally. I'd have to try them back to back, but I was surprised that the T with SPASM didn't feel all that different over lumps and bumps to my 991.2 Carrera. Was reading the latest Evo, and its tester seemed to agree. So I can see how a Boxster Spyder driver would see the 991.2 Carrera has firmer...because the Boxster's wheel base helps here and its dampers are very good too.
However: Not sure how I can see a 997 GT3 RS has less firm than a 991.2 Carrera. If your 991.2 Carrera really feels harsher in the Normal damper mode than a 997 RS, maybe something is amiss?
BTW, the Spyder was a SUPER fun car for the street, I'll miss it. I could see myself in another one someday.
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Edit: Got this wrong: The dynamic suspension control only works on cars that have the shocks that support PASM, so that won't help you. Your shocks don't have the variable valving.
I would check to make sure you are running "Comfort" settings on your tire pressures. I'd bet you are running the Full Load pressures which can lead to uncomfortable rides.
If you haven't already, use your multi-function display to bring up the tire pressure display, then select to bring up the tire settings. Make sure Full Load is not selected and Comfort is selected. The select Fill Info to see how many PSI your tires are over and bleed out that much until the fill info reports zero on each tire.
I would check to make sure you are running "Comfort" settings on your tire pressures. I'd bet you are running the Full Load pressures which can lead to uncomfortable rides.
If you haven't already, use your multi-function display to bring up the tire pressure display, then select to bring up the tire settings. Make sure Full Load is not selected and Comfort is selected. The select Fill Info to see how many PSI your tires are over and bleed out that much until the fill info reports zero on each tire.
Last edited by StormRune; 03-02-2018 at 10:07 PM.
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"The PASM chassis is standard on all models."
"The new 911 Carrera models are equipped as standard with the electronically controlled Porsche Active Suspension Management (PASM) damper system with active and continuous control of the shock absorbers on the front and rear axles including a 10 mm lowering of the vehicle height."
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Sorry, not correct. For 991.2:
"The PASM chassis is standard on all models."
"The new 911 Carrera models are equipped as standard with the electronically controlled Porsche Active Suspension Management (PASM) damper system with active and continuous control of the shock absorbers on the front and rear axles including a 10 mm lowering of the vehicle height."
"The PASM chassis is standard on all models."
"The new 911 Carrera models are equipped as standard with the electronically controlled Porsche Active Suspension Management (PASM) damper system with active and continuous control of the shock absorbers on the front and rear axles including a 10 mm lowering of the vehicle height."
#9
Interesting thread. I have a 991.2 base and noticed the same firmness. Also noticed that pressing the suspension button makes very little (if any) difference to the ride.
(My only basis of comparison is BMWs with adaptive suspension where going from comfort to sport makes a HUGE difference.)
(My only basis of comparison is BMWs with adaptive suspension where going from comfort to sport makes a HUGE difference.)
#10
Burning Brakes
Interesting thread. I have a 991.2 base and noticed the same firmness. Also noticed that pressing the suspension button makes very little (if any) difference to the ride.
(My only basis of comparison is BMWs with adaptive suspension where going from comfort to sport makes a HUGE difference.)
(My only basis of comparison is BMWs with adaptive suspension where going from comfort to sport makes a HUGE difference.)
#11
Racer
Thread Starter
Sorry, not correct. For 991.2:
"The PASM chassis is standard on all models."
"The new 911 Carrera models are equipped as standard with the electronically controlled Porsche Active Suspension Management (PASM) damper system with active and continuous control of the shock absorbers on the front and rear axles including a 10 mm lowering of the vehicle height."
"The PASM chassis is standard on all models."
"The new 911 Carrera models are equipped as standard with the electronically controlled Porsche Active Suspension Management (PASM) damper system with active and continuous control of the shock absorbers on the front and rear axles including a 10 mm lowering of the vehicle height."
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#13
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Sorry, not correct. For 991.2:
"The PASM chassis is standard on all models."
"The new 911 Carrera models are equipped as standard with the electronically controlled Porsche Active Suspension Management (PASM) damper system with active and continuous control of the shock absorbers on the front and rear axles including a 10 mm lowering of the vehicle height."
"The PASM chassis is standard on all models."
"The new 911 Carrera models are equipped as standard with the electronically controlled Porsche Active Suspension Management (PASM) damper system with active and continuous control of the shock absorbers on the front and rear axles including a 10 mm lowering of the vehicle height."
If it isn't there, could someone have configured a base specifically without PASM... a PASM delete option?
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Are the suspension blocks (used during trucking / delivery process) still in place?