PDK 991.1 with or without sport chrono ?
02-25-2018, 12:46 AM
#17
Burning Brakes
For 991.1 my choice is an S. It's 3.8L and worth every penny.
As for SC if you go PDK it is a must IMO. With MT it is nice to have and the biggest benefit is Dynamic Engine Mounts.
As for SC if you go PDK it is a must IMO. With MT it is nice to have and the biggest benefit is Dynamic Engine Mounts.
02-25-2018, 01:55 AM
#18
Rennlist Member
If you are going for the 991.1 I would say try to get the best example possible within your budget.
S, PDK, Sport Exhaust, PDCC ...... all worth it.
Sport Plus package... I've only ever use sport plus a hand full of times and would not really place this in the "have to" options bin.
S, PDK, Sport Exhaust, PDCC ...... all worth it.
Sport Plus package... I've only ever use sport plus a hand full of times and would not really place this in the "have to" options bin.
02-25-2018, 02:29 AM
#19
I’d say if the car is perfect otherwise, you can skip it, but it’s one of the best options. Manual shifting in S+ is more rapid than in Sport, and the dynamic engine mounts help in every way. Also the clock looks good imo (also the MFD performance data is cool, etc. etc.). Having a base with it provided a cool unique element most other bases don’t have.
PSE or any uncorked exhaust is a must on an N/A. These engines sound so amazing that you’re gonna want to let that music freely sing. It’s like having a mechanical orchestra behind you.
PSE or any uncorked exhaust is a must on an N/A. These engines sound so amazing that you’re gonna want to let that music freely sing. It’s like having a mechanical orchestra behind you.
02-25-2018, 07:55 AM
#20
Advanced
Thread Starter
Thank you all for your advice. I will narrow my search now to only the S cars with SC and SE preferably a 2016 car. There are a few available with blue colors, maybe I will post examples and see what you guys think. One more factor is when you look at Florida cars, sometimes they don't have a sunroof. what do you guys think is it a deal breaker ? or do you prefer the cleaner look without one ?
02-25-2018, 08:19 AM
#21
Thank you all for your advice. I will narrow my search now to only the S cars with SC and SE preferably a 2016 car. There are a few available with blue colors, maybe I will post examples and see what you guys think. One more factor is when you look at Florida cars, sometimes they don't have a sunroof. what do you guys think is it a deal breaker ? or do you prefer the cleaner look without one ?
02-25-2018, 08:37 AM
#22
Rennlist Member
As far as a deal breaker for me, I’d say PDK without Sport Chrono would be; however, if this can be added after the fact for $1k perhaps not so much an issue. That said, all the pre-owned cars I looked at recently had Sport Chrono with PDK. Finding a car with a manual, sunroof and sport plus seats with heat and ventilation was near impossible so I figured I’d go with the PDK as that broadened the choices substantially. As far as PSE is concerned, this wasn’t an important option for me but the car I ended up buying had this as well. In my case, I ended up finding a more recent 991.2 S that had everything I wanted - this did require revisiting my self imposed budget as there was nothing available in the base model. One thing for sure, I doubt I’ll be wanting more power in the near future !
Wishing you luck finding the right car and enjoy the process ...
02-25-2018, 09:18 AM
#23
Race Car
The S in an 991.1 is noticeably more torquey and powerful compared to a non- S, which to me is plenty fast and feels like it revs faster.
Sport exhaust adds the right sounds at the right times for fun in any model.
Sport Chrono - on the S PDK - adds a bunch of things:
1) launch control capability (fun once or twice but generally useless)
2) access to faster responding and higher revs in gears engine mapping in "Sport" mode (just like the "Sport " mode of non SC cars) and a track oriented " Sport +" mode that keeps the engine at max revs in gears the PDK is in " Auto" - you can shift where you want in "manual" mode. I find Sport + on a PDK S worse that useless on the street.
3) dynamic engine/transmission mounts that change from "soft" to "firm" when in "Sport of Sport-+" mode for noticeable stiffness increase and handling improvement when driven VERY sportingly.
All this stuff is very desirable to me (along with Sport PASM) but not "necessary" to enjoy a 991. They are all great drives. Keep in mind that some folks talk about "necessary" colors too.
One thing about a sunroof. I use mine a lot- popping up the back to stop the booming the occurs with the windows open- a real issue over about 60 mph. The solutions sold by aftermarket companies to deflect the airflow by replacing the small plastic triangles at the front of the door glass are about the only real "necessity" for a non sunroof coupe.
Sport exhaust adds the right sounds at the right times for fun in any model.
Sport Chrono - on the S PDK - adds a bunch of things:
1) launch control capability (fun once or twice but generally useless)
2) access to faster responding and higher revs in gears engine mapping in "Sport" mode (just like the "Sport " mode of non SC cars) and a track oriented " Sport +" mode that keeps the engine at max revs in gears the PDK is in " Auto" - you can shift where you want in "manual" mode. I find Sport + on a PDK S worse that useless on the street.
3) dynamic engine/transmission mounts that change from "soft" to "firm" when in "Sport of Sport-+" mode for noticeable stiffness increase and handling improvement when driven VERY sportingly.
All this stuff is very desirable to me (along with Sport PASM) but not "necessary" to enjoy a 991. They are all great drives. Keep in mind that some folks talk about "necessary" colors too.
One thing about a sunroof. I use mine a lot- popping up the back to stop the booming the occurs with the windows open- a real issue over about 60 mph. The solutions sold by aftermarket companies to deflect the airflow by replacing the small plastic triangles at the front of the door glass are about the only real "necessity" for a non sunroof coupe.
02-25-2018, 09:23 AM
#24
Race Car
Note: I weighed in earlier that SC is "necessary" on a car with PDK. I suppose that's maybe too extreme - it will be an awesome car either way. Personally I wouldn't want a non-SC car because I love PDK and I track my cars. The PDK doesn't behave well for the track in non-Sport Plus mode IMHO.
02-25-2018, 09:31 AM
#25
Rennlist Member
I think Porsche can explain it far batter than I can. Click here.
02-25-2018, 09:47 AM
#26
Rennlist Member
Thanks for the correction. I checked the TEquipment page and don't see it there for the 991. I think I'll just be quiet now, after I correct my earlier post so as not to mislead anyone further!)
02-25-2018, 09:49 AM
#27
Yes on the S
If PDK then the SC is a great addition and would be on my list for sure
If no PSE then the dealer can add it (I had my dealer add to my Carrera S).. would have preferred to have found one with the feature but the other options were what I wanted and this one was dealer installable.....
Sunroof --- I actually like the Cab a lot better - especially for just running around .... if no Cab then I would not get the sunroof....
just my 2¢ worth ....
If PDK then the SC is a great addition and would be on my list for sure
If no PSE then the dealer can add it (I had my dealer add to my Carrera S).. would have preferred to have found one with the feature but the other options were what I wanted and this one was dealer installable.....
Sunroof --- I actually like the Cab a lot better - especially for just running around .... if no Cab then I would not get the sunroof....
just my 2¢ worth ....
02-25-2018, 11:04 AM
#28
Rennlist Member
If sunroof is important, maybe you should be checking the cabriolet. Otherwise, since you are hunting for a used one, I would go without sunroof if the other desired options are present.
02-25-2018, 12:19 PM
#29
Instructor
Thank you all for your advice. I will narrow my search now to only the S cars with SC and SE preferably a 2016 car. There are a few available with blue colors, maybe I will post examples and see what you guys think. One more factor is when you look at Florida cars, sometimes they don't have a sunroof. what do you guys think is it a deal breaker ? or do you prefer the cleaner look without one ?