911R / GT3 T diffuser for 991.2?
#1
Racer
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911R / GT3 T diffuser for 991.2?
My 991.2 runs a 991.1 GT3 very close. In fact, due to the drag that the 991.1 GT3 RS makes (especially if you added more wing), it is faster down a long straight. With upgraded brakes MPSC2 N1 tires, it is a very fast. However, to really compete it does need some downforce. Instead of sticking a big wing on it, I wonder if the 911R diffuser, (also used on the 991.2 GT3 Touring), might somehow work? I know that Suncoast states that it doesn't fit, but maybe the 991.2 GT3 version will? Or with some modifications? Any thought?
Will any of the 991.2 GT3 brake cooling work? The car needs bigger discs on tracks heavy on brakes, but the stock rotors could work with better cooling together with better pads and fluids.
Any other suggestions for brake cooling or downforce would be appreciated!
Will any of the 991.2 GT3 brake cooling work? The car needs bigger discs on tracks heavy on brakes, but the stock rotors could work with better cooling together with better pads and fluids.
Any other suggestions for brake cooling or downforce would be appreciated!
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There is some brake cooling ducts as a part of the X51 kit - I'd start here and either look for these part numbers or get a diagram and build something similar.
With regards to GT3 spoiler - there is a risk with cooling since these cars are not turbo. BBI has an intercooler upgrade kit and there is also a Porsche OEM center radiator that would both help. I also recommend aquamist(made a thread with links but there was never any interest).
A SPASM lip is an easy path to front end downforce but the only way to get more on the rear is a wing.
Lastly - a diffuser could help on the rear. Vorsteiner has one that looks nice but there is no data to support and real increase in practical aero. A legit race shop may be able to help but most offerings are for nothing more than Aesthetics.
With regards to GT3 spoiler - there is a risk with cooling since these cars are not turbo. BBI has an intercooler upgrade kit and there is also a Porsche OEM center radiator that would both help. I also recommend aquamist(made a thread with links but there was never any interest).
A SPASM lip is an easy path to front end downforce but the only way to get more on the rear is a wing.
Lastly - a diffuser could help on the rear. Vorsteiner has one that looks nice but there is no data to support and real increase in practical aero. A legit race shop may be able to help but most offerings are for nothing more than Aesthetics.
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I would have to think someone can adapt the .2 GT3 diffuser to a 991.2 Carrera. I'd stay away from aftermarket stuff for anything other than appearances—unless they have verifiable wind-tunnel data to back up their claims. Is your car an S? A base? Or? If no Sport PASM, next steps would include a Sport PASM front lip and the rear spoiler setup/settings from the Carrera T (which may be like or the same as the Cabriolet). A Gurney flap from the GT3 Touring would be my last consideration. Apparently, it is quite effective.
If you're on base brakes, I doubt cooling, pads, and fluid will be enough. They might be a good first step, but you likely need better/bigger rotors. Sounds like AP Racing may be working on a package.
If you're on base brakes, I doubt cooling, pads, and fluid will be enough. They might be a good first step, but you likely need better/bigger rotors. Sounds like AP Racing may be working on a package.
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My 991.2 runs a 991.1 GT3 very close. In fact, due to the drag that the 991.1 GT3 RS makes (especially if you added more wing), it is faster down a long straight. With upgraded brakes MPSC2 N1 tires, it is a very fast. However, to really compete it does need some downforce. Instead of sticking a big wing on it, I wonder if the 911R diffuser, (also used on the 991.2 GT3 Touring), might somehow work? I know that Suncoast states that it doesn't fit, but maybe the 991.2 GT3 version will? Or with some modifications? Any thought?
Will any of the 991.2 GT3 brake cooling work? The car needs bigger discs on tracks heavy on brakes, but the stock rotors could work with better cooling together with better pads and fluids.
Any other suggestions for brake cooling or downforce would be appreciated!
Will any of the 991.2 GT3 brake cooling work? The car needs bigger discs on tracks heavy on brakes, but the stock rotors could work with better cooling together with better pads and fluids.
Any other suggestions for brake cooling or downforce would be appreciated!
This article has pictures of putting the 991R diffuser on a 991.1 GT3RS:
http://www.motoiq.com/MagazineArticl...-Diffuser.aspx
Notice there are very specific mounting brackets which the diffuser attaches to which the 991.2 does not have. Plus, with the engines being different (oil pans, headers, etc), I think there's too much difference.
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#5
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Even if it fits, the diffuser is likely too short to do much good aerodynamically. One of the primary reasons that Porsche switched the RSR to a mid-engine layout was to get the engine our of the way and make room for a large diffuser that could be far more effective. With the engine in the rear, no diffuser is likely to do much aerodynamically--even if it looks cool.
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Even if it fits, the diffuser is likely too short to do much good aerodynamically. One of the primary reasons that Porsche switched the RSR to a mid-engine layout was to get the engine our of the way and make room for a large diffuser that could be far more effective. With the engine in the rear, no diffuser is likely to do much aerodynamically--even if it looks cool.
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I got a couple pics of the diffuser (among other things) on 911 RSR from the 2016 LA Auto Show. That diffuser has a lot of length and height to it.
http://www.motoiq.com/MagazineArticl...e-911-RSR.aspx
http://www.motoiq.com/MagazineArticl...e-911-RSR.aspx
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Can you get into the computer and set the spoiler for cab/GT3 height? Anyone know? They go up more which I suppose would give more downforce. I think it is 20 degree v. 30 degree.
#10
Racer
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Seems like the R / GT3 T diffuser is a no.
Regarding the additional brake cooling from the X51-pack is already mounted on the GTS, since it has the extra power?