The ordeal of a flat tire... intersecting with customer experience
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The ordeal of a flat tire... intersecting with customer experience
Last night, I noticed a tick-tick-tick coming from under the car while driving. I located a screw sticking out of the rear tire. No big deal, it happens. I have centerlock wheels, so I figured I’d run down to the dealer this morning and get it resolved.
Dropped son #1 off at school, quick drive to the dealer. Learned something interesting, they are not allowed to repair tires. Okay, I could argue that either way, but I get it.
Me: “okay, so I have to buy a new tire. I have wheel and tire insurance”
Service Associate (SA): do you have that info with you?
Me: no, don’t you have it in your system?
SA: no
Me: well, I need to get the tire replaced so can you just do it?
SA: I have to check with parts to see if they have the tires in stock
Putting aside the issue of tracking what your customers purchased with a new car (Mercedes does it, they have all my coverage detailed in my customer record), the bigger issue is the tire availability. If you have a propietary wheel that requires customers to use the dealer for service, you should also require that dealers stock the tires to support customers in need. They didn’t have the tires in stock but were expecting 2 later today that were not spoken for.
So I drove back home and when I exited the car in the driveway the tire was hissing at me. The screw had gone from an annoying tick-tick-tick to a full on puncture. The tire was flat in 20 minutes. At 2pm I called the dealer to check on status.
Me: did you get the tires for my car?
SA: Our internet has been up/down all day and I haven’t been able to track the truck, but it’s a 3 hour process to change the tire.
Me: okay, so let me get this straight... a flat tire that would otherwise be a simple repair now has me disabled and you can’t replace the tire or give me a loaner car (I didn’t schedule my flat tire, hence no cars available), and it’s not clear when you will have a tire or a loaner car.
SA: you could call roadside service, it’s provided by your warranty.
I’m condition RED on frustration at this point, but I went to my happy place and breathed through my eyelids. I called roadside service and they sent a tow truck out to transport my car to the dealer. Tow truck shows up, I gave him the keys, signed something and left to pick up son #2 from school. I return home and the tow truck driver calls me to tell me that the bumper snagged on his truck but he put the plastic strip back on. Blink... return to happy place. “Okay, thanks for telling me. Click”. For the 3rd time today, I call the dealer.
Me: I just got a weird call from the tow truck driver
SA: Yes, was your bumper strip hanging off the car when he picked it up?
Me: Uh no, the car is perfect... it’s only 2 months old.
SA: Okay, we saw him catch it on the truck and try to put it back on. We need to get the car up and inspect it to see if there is any additional damage. Your tire will be here tomorrow.
Me: (calm voice) okay, so my flat tire is now taking at least two days and I have a damaged bumper to go with it... awesome.
Dropped son #1 off at school, quick drive to the dealer. Learned something interesting, they are not allowed to repair tires. Okay, I could argue that either way, but I get it.
Me: “okay, so I have to buy a new tire. I have wheel and tire insurance”
Service Associate (SA): do you have that info with you?
Me: no, don’t you have it in your system?
SA: no
Me: well, I need to get the tire replaced so can you just do it?
SA: I have to check with parts to see if they have the tires in stock
Putting aside the issue of tracking what your customers purchased with a new car (Mercedes does it, they have all my coverage detailed in my customer record), the bigger issue is the tire availability. If you have a propietary wheel that requires customers to use the dealer for service, you should also require that dealers stock the tires to support customers in need. They didn’t have the tires in stock but were expecting 2 later today that were not spoken for.
So I drove back home and when I exited the car in the driveway the tire was hissing at me. The screw had gone from an annoying tick-tick-tick to a full on puncture. The tire was flat in 20 minutes. At 2pm I called the dealer to check on status.
Me: did you get the tires for my car?
SA: Our internet has been up/down all day and I haven’t been able to track the truck, but it’s a 3 hour process to change the tire.
Me: okay, so let me get this straight... a flat tire that would otherwise be a simple repair now has me disabled and you can’t replace the tire or give me a loaner car (I didn’t schedule my flat tire, hence no cars available), and it’s not clear when you will have a tire or a loaner car.
SA: you could call roadside service, it’s provided by your warranty.
I’m condition RED on frustration at this point, but I went to my happy place and breathed through my eyelids. I called roadside service and they sent a tow truck out to transport my car to the dealer. Tow truck shows up, I gave him the keys, signed something and left to pick up son #2 from school. I return home and the tow truck driver calls me to tell me that the bumper snagged on his truck but he put the plastic strip back on. Blink... return to happy place. “Okay, thanks for telling me. Click”. For the 3rd time today, I call the dealer.
Me: I just got a weird call from the tow truck driver
SA: Yes, was your bumper strip hanging off the car when he picked it up?
Me: Uh no, the car is perfect... it’s only 2 months old.
SA: Okay, we saw him catch it on the truck and try to put it back on. We need to get the car up and inspect it to see if there is any additional damage. Your tire will be here tomorrow.
Me: (calm voice) okay, so my flat tire is now taking at least two days and I have a damaged bumper to go with it... awesome.
#2
Burning Brakes
Wow......how big is the hole? Plug the tire if it's not sidewall damage and be done with it. Have the dealership repair the bumper and find a new service center fast.........Phil
#3
Nordschleife Master
Sorry to hear.
Porsche dealers - there are no substitutes.
Porsche dealers - there are no substitutes.
Last edited by Porsche_nuts; 01-31-2018 at 06:23 AM.
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That sucks.
#6
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Sounds like a big ordeal. I had a flat last week at my office. I called the dealer, they called the tow company and road side to get things going. I got a call within 10 minutes, low profile flat bed with ramps picks up my car and me. Drops car at dealer, they replaced a winter tire the next morning, picked up the car and went on my way. Sad all dealers can't be this good, glad I am near one. Hopefully you have another dealer in the area to use in the future.
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Last night, I noticed a tick-tick-tick coming from under the car while driving. I located a screw sticking out of the rear tire. No big deal, it happens. I have centerlock wheels, so I figured I’d run down to the dealer this morning and get it resolved.
Dropped son #1 off at school, quick drive to the dealer. Learned something interesting, they are not allowed to repair tires. Okay, I could argue that either way, but I get it.
Me: “okay, so I have to buy a new tire. I have wheel and tire insurance”
Service Associate (SA): do you have that info with you?
Me: no, don’t you have it in your system?
SA: no
Me: well, I need to get the tire replaced so can you just do it?
SA: I have to check with parts to see if they have the tires in stock
Putting aside the issue of tracking what your customers purchased with a new car (Mercedes does it, they have all my coverage detailed in my customer record), the bigger issue is the tire availability. If you have a propietary wheel that requires customers to use the dealer for service, you should also require that dealers stock the tires to support customers in need. They didn’t have the tires in stock but were expecting 2 later today that were not spoken for.
So I drove back home and when I exited the car in the driveway the tire was hissing at me. The screw had gone from an annoying tick-tick-tick to a full on puncture. The tire was flat in 20 minutes.
Dropped son #1 off at school, quick drive to the dealer. Learned something interesting, they are not allowed to repair tires. Okay, I could argue that either way, but I get it.
Me: “okay, so I have to buy a new tire. I have wheel and tire insurance”
Service Associate (SA): do you have that info with you?
Me: no, don’t you have it in your system?
SA: no
Me: well, I need to get the tire replaced so can you just do it?
SA: I have to check with parts to see if they have the tires in stock
Putting aside the issue of tracking what your customers purchased with a new car (Mercedes does it, they have all my coverage detailed in my customer record), the bigger issue is the tire availability. If you have a propietary wheel that requires customers to use the dealer for service, you should also require that dealers stock the tires to support customers in need. They didn’t have the tires in stock but were expecting 2 later today that were not spoken for.
So I drove back home and when I exited the car in the driveway the tire was hissing at me. The screw had gone from an annoying tick-tick-tick to a full on puncture. The tire was flat in 20 minutes.
Last edited by subwoofer; 01-31-2018 at 07:42 AM.
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New dealer time.
I keep tire plugs in all my cars and have a spare set of wheels/tires for the centerlock and the big 3/4in torque wrench.
Of course, I don’t have the actual car yet ....
I keep tire plugs in all my cars and have a spare set of wheels/tires for the centerlock and the big 3/4in torque wrench.
Of course, I don’t have the actual car yet ....
#10
Burning Brakes
I feel for you. Great you have that happy place
I'd share this experience with Porsche of NA. I believe we way too often make this type of ordeals go by.
Not to rub salt into the wound, but tire punctures are always a PITA. That's why I prefer 5-lug to CL wheels. At least I have more repair shop choices. Also tire repair kit and tire plugs are always in my frunk.
I'd share this experience with Porsche of NA. I believe we way too often make this type of ordeals go by.
Not to rub salt into the wound, but tire punctures are always a PITA. That's why I prefer 5-lug to CL wheels. At least I have more repair shop choices. Also tire repair kit and tire plugs are always in my frunk.
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Captain Obvious here.....did you know you have a sealant kit in the frunk of the car? All you had to do was use this and go on with your day. NEVER put your car on a flatbed except as a last resort. Towing damage is frequent and to be expected.
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Captain Obvious here.....did you know you have a sealant kit in the frunk of the car? All you had to do was use this and go on with your day. NEVER put your car on a flatbed except as a last resort. Towing damage is frequent and to be expected.
https://youtu.be/kOhEcBqO2jM
https://youtu.be/kOhEcBqO2jM
#14
This is an unfortunate fact of life with many modern cars, especially with low aspect side-walls, run-flats or real odd ball sizes. Large tire shops would never have the right size for my M5. Our Cayenne this past year needed a repair and I believe a replacement wasn't in stock. It may be that there's just too much diversity in sizes, brands, speed ratings, and given the cost of inventory most places won't stock a lot. The dealer, I can't comment on, but probably they're not charged to replace tires too often throughout the year. It's not the '70s anymore when everything ran on 185-15HR75s.....
#15
Burning Brakes
First part of the story is a very valid complaint. Sorry but once you left the dealer intentionally driving around with a screw in your tire I would have to place the rest of the aggravation on you honestly. Now off course it isn't your fault the tow truck damaged your car but the story really should have never got to that place. You said you have other cars to drive around. Should have just taken the Uber the first time.