R_Rated

Anand - The S feels more substantial against a base for sure. But keep in perspective that the base has more power and is lighter than previous S trim carerras. There is also the positive that the engine revs out easier and could be argued as more fun for the street. There is another thread about this.

There is a slight drone on the NA cars.... interestingly enough, catless headers eliminated this for me

For the 991.2 - the power argument against the base is a poor argument. More because of HOW the new engines make power.

AnandN

Not sure what you mean by this statement. The power delivery in the 991.2 is very similar to a NA flat six engine except for slight turbo lag. Porsche engineers did an amazing job replicating the feel of the NA engines. Power (and sound) builds across the rev range in such a linear fashion that I find it hard pressed to tell that it is a turbo car. I have driven many turbo cars where you get the feel of an on-off swtich with the turbos. Not with the new 911s. As for the old 3.4 L in my Boxster, the torque curve in that engine had slight dip at 3k rpms that used to manifest as hesitation in throttle response. And did I mention how fast the new cars are? The throttle response and acceleration are astounding.
Even without the SE, my C4S car is not silent. It is quite a noisy car (pleasantly so) and I can't hear any turbo sounds inside the car. The 7 speed MT is also much improved over the previous version. It is as nice as the 6 speed I had in my Boxster and the clutch is way nicer.

mtgadbois

As others have written, " Sport Chrono is a must." One not so loved feature of our cars is hill-hold. I have a 991.1 7sp. and have found it somewhat fussy to modulate the gas pedal with hill-hold on while NOT in sport or sport+ modes. However, turning on either of those modes sharpens up the response of the gas pedal and makes it much easier to move smooth and quickly up the hill. BTW, I have over 192K miles on my S6 and it is still on it's first clutch.

Gus_Smedstad

One thing I discovered recently with my MT 2018 GTS is that Sport+ makes a dramatic difference in how much boost pressure the car holds over Sport. It's not surprising that the car tends to avoid boost whenever possible in Normal mode, since Normal's all about EPA gas mileage estimates, but I would have expected Sport and Sport+ to be the same in this regard. They're not.

It used to be that I'd primarily argue that the Sport Chrono option was mostly about shift patterns with a PDK transmission, with a few nice but somewhat minor benefits for MT cars. With the 2017+ turbocharged cars I think it's now an absolute must for manual transmissions as well.

R_Rated

I think the new cars deliver power much quicker and easier. In the old cars you really had to work for it and the new ones; even though only have a few more hp/tq - deliver that power much sooner and a lot more effortlessly. Porsche did well for a boosted engine but it doesn't feel like the old 3.4/3.8... we can't say that "power under the curve - blah blah blah" argument AND it feels the same as the old one. One of those statements cannot be true.

My testimony was a compliment to the power of the new base but also highlighted the merits of the old 3.4 for those of us that do enjoy revving it out and working for it.

AnandN

The torque curves of the turbo sixes look flat but the power delivery feels very much like that of a NA engine. It just feels like a larger displacement engine because the torque arrives earlier and the power builds from there. Feels very much like a compressed torque curve across the rev range than a flat one. I don't know how to explain that.
I do love the older NA flat sixes and they do sound nicer. Also, I was commenting on another forum that my 981 Boxster with the 3.4 felt a lot frisker whereas my 911 feels more planted and harder to rotate in tight corners. It seems to want to understeer more and maybe it is the awd. Upside is that the ride is better on the highway and overall, the car feels less nervous (or maybe I feel less nervous pushing it). It certainly does not have the tossable feel of a roadster like the Boxster and I wish I could have kept that car as well.

R_Rated

I'm with you - ideally I'd have a boxster and a 911 coupe. Since I don't have the budget or space I have a 911 Cab

At Treffen - I was having no problem keeping up with anyone else from GT cars to new #2 cars to a full 400hp RUF Cayman with RUF installed at the factory suspension and brakes. This was on public roads and not the track mind you but we were pushing pretty hard for the street. The 991 platform is VERY planted.

Bud Taylor

I agree, I have never missed a shift and have no problem with my 2012.5 MT. Perhaps the poster drives a PDK and tried a manual for the first time.

houmamali

Papa Fittig

Very nice, congrats! Details?

Wing Commander

Dom991.1

I agree with this...one thing to keep in mind - the MT on 2012.5 does not feature rev match with SC. For some that would be a good thing...😁 not me though, love it!

subshooter

Same with the 981. Rev matching wasn't available until the 2014 model. It was available on the 991 from 2013 onward.

houmamali

2015 991 CS. MT. All the bells and whistles
(PCM, Sport Chrono, 18 way seats, sport exhaust, Sport/Sport Plus, CPO) Not sure if I missed anything ...

Jastx

Nice! Congrats and enjoy it!