2019
#16
Race Car
#19
https://www.carthrottle.com/post/the...s-been-leaked/
Porsche also tends to overlap the Turbo production into the first model year of the next generation as well as some other trim levels.
So 2019 will most likely see Base, 4, S, and 4S 992's. As well as the Turbo, GT3RS and possibly other higher trim model 991's.
#20
Rennlist Member
That makes no sense. Why would a 2018 GT3 with a 4 yr -50k miles warranty ever be competitive with a 2016 with a 10 yr- 100k miles factory engine warranty. Considering an out of warranty engine is $70k+. I am no collector, but I know what I would buy 5 years from now and it would be the warranty.
#22
Instructor
That makes no sense. Why would a 2018 GT3 with a 4 yr -50k miles warranty ever be competitive with a 2016 with a 10 yr- 100k miles factory engine warranty. Considering an out of warranty engine is $70k+. I am no collector, but I know what I would buy 5 years from now and it would be the warranty.
2018 GT3 has got the 4.0L engine, manual trans from the 911R, plus many other components.
It's basically a track tuned 911R with the wing and PDK option etc.... compared to the first gen 991 GT3 which had major engine issues and no MT... add to that the fact it's THE last NA GT3 to be produced and.... yeah I'd say it will be at the top of the GT3 collectability food-chain.
You've still got a stunning GT3 and should be happy with it, but the 2018 will be last of it's kind.
#23
Rennlist Member
That makes no sense. Why would a 2018 GT3 with a 4 yr -50k miles warranty ever be competitive with a 2016 with a 10 yr- 100k miles factory engine warranty. Considering an out of warranty engine is $70k+. I am no collector, but I know what I would buy 5 years from now and it would be the warranty.
Hmmm I'm surprised by this question from you (at least based on previous posts).
2018 GT3 has got the 4.0L engine, manual trans from the 911R, plus many other components.
It's basically a track tuned 911R with the wing and PDK option etc.... compared to the first gen 991 GT3 which had major engine issues and no MT... add to that the fact it's THE last NA GT3 to be produced and.... yeah I'd say it will be at the top of the GT3 collectability food-chain.
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2018 GT3 has got the 4.0L engine, manual trans from the 911R, plus many other components.
It's basically a track tuned 911R with the wing and PDK option etc.... compared to the first gen 991 GT3 which had major engine issues and no MT... add to that the fact it's THE last NA GT3 to be produced and.... yeah I'd say it will be at the top of the GT3 collectability food-chain.
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#24
My guess is that the 992 arrives in the US early 2019 as a 2020 model, just as the 991.2 arrived in early 2016 as a 2017 model. My Launch Edition 991.2 was built January 2016 as a 2017 model.
#25
Burning Brakes
On the Macan Forum a forum member posted a photo of some time of production schedule document . It wasn't just Porsches on that list . I have no idea if its anything official but on the photo the start of production for the 992 was listed as 12/18 . Keep in mind that Porsche has gone through certification delays as well as their own internal obstacles so it's my opinion that any schedule can change . For instance look at the Cayenne or even the 18 Macan delays . Things change .
So I'll take a guess and predict a 2020 car . I also don;t feel it will come extremely early like was shown with the 991.2 . 2016 with its early release of the 17 cars caused a huge debacle for dealerships who got stuck holding 16 inventory . Add to this a 2017 car can be nearly two actual years old which becomes a real dilemma in terms of trade in and resale (for both the buyer and dealership) .
We'll just have to be patient and see.
So I'll take a guess and predict a 2020 car . I also don;t feel it will come extremely early like was shown with the 991.2 . 2016 with its early release of the 17 cars caused a huge debacle for dealerships who got stuck holding 16 inventory . Add to this a 2017 car can be nearly two actual years old which becomes a real dilemma in terms of trade in and resale (for both the buyer and dealership) .
We'll just have to be patient and see.
#28
You know, they haven't done it like that for many years now. Production and delivery of every part of every car is timed and choreographed to appear on the assembly line just a few minutes (if that) before it is needed. This extends way back to parts being bar-coded and loaded on trucks (which are in turn bar-coded) timed to arrive at loading docks to the minute. There are no body shells nor anything else just sitting around waiting to be used up. The body shell in particular is cut, stamped, assembled, dipped and moved onto the assembly line in one smooth progression. These things never just sit around. This is actually one of the more amazing aspects of the whole process, the way all these parts from so many different places all flow together into a finished car with such mind-bending efficiency. I mean, watch a few videos. Somewhere around the 3rd or 4th time you hear one of them say "every 27 seconds" or "every 90 seconds" it starts to sink in, they really do mean SECONDS!
#29
JIT manufacturing
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thanks Japan!
QUOTE=chuck911;14851115]You know, they haven't done it like that for many years now. Production and delivery of every part of every car is timed and choreographed to appear on the assembly line just a few minutes (if that) before it is needed. This extends way back to parts being bar-coded and loaded on trucks (which are in turn bar-coded) timed to arrive at loading docks to the minute. There are no body shells nor anything else just sitting around waiting to be used up. The body shell in particular is cut, stamped, assembled, dipped and moved onto the assembly line in one smooth progression. These things never just sit around. This is actually one of the more amazing aspects of the whole process, the way all these parts from so many different places all flow together into a finished car with such mind-bending efficiency. I mean, watch a few videos. Somewhere around the 3rd or 4th time you hear one of them say "every 27 seconds" or "every 90 seconds" it starts to sink in, they really do mean SECONDS![/QUOTE]
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thanks Japan!
QUOTE=chuck911;14851115]You know, they haven't done it like that for many years now. Production and delivery of every part of every car is timed and choreographed to appear on the assembly line just a few minutes (if that) before it is needed. This extends way back to parts being bar-coded and loaded on trucks (which are in turn bar-coded) timed to arrive at loading docks to the minute. There are no body shells nor anything else just sitting around waiting to be used up. The body shell in particular is cut, stamped, assembled, dipped and moved onto the assembly line in one smooth progression. These things never just sit around. This is actually one of the more amazing aspects of the whole process, the way all these parts from so many different places all flow together into a finished car with such mind-bending efficiency. I mean, watch a few videos. Somewhere around the 3rd or 4th time you hear one of them say "every 27 seconds" or "every 90 seconds" it starts to sink in, they really do mean SECONDS![/QUOTE]
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#30
Rennlist Member
Hmmm I'm surprised by this question from you (at least based on previous posts).
2018 GT3 has got the 4.0L engine, manual trans from the 911R, plus many other components.
It's basically a track tuned 911R with the wing and PDK option etc.... compared to the first gen 991 GT3 which had major engine issues and no MT... add to that the fact it's THE last NA GT3 to be produced and.... yeah I'd say it will be at the top of the GT3 collectability food-chain.
You've still got a stunning GT3 and should be happy with it, but the 2018 will be last of it's kind.
2018 GT3 has got the 4.0L engine, manual trans from the 911R, plus many other components.
It's basically a track tuned 911R with the wing and PDK option etc.... compared to the first gen 991 GT3 which had major engine issues and no MT... add to that the fact it's THE last NA GT3 to be produced and.... yeah I'd say it will be at the top of the GT3 collectability food-chain.
You've still got a stunning GT3 and should be happy with it, but the 2018 will be last of it's kind.