991 c2s: safe driving, road holding and safety
01-04-2018, 11:23 PM
#16
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Traction control has come a long way. Keep your tires in good shape and you’ll be fine. You’ll need some tread depth for hydroplaning resistance and if you have a cold season you’ll want to consider using winter tires.
01-04-2018, 11:25 PM
#17
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I would say you need to find a Porsche Experience Center and get brain washed a bit on Porsche handling.
A bit of seat time in the same car you purchased around a track with an experienced driver can give you a better understanding of it's limits.
Did you consider a C4 or C4S?
A bit of seat time in the same car you purchased around a track with an experienced driver can give you a better understanding of it's limits.
Did you consider a C4 or C4S?
01-05-2018, 02:43 AM
#18
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Yes, but at the end I choose S because I have a Macan S for bad season.
i live in good weather 10 months in a year
I have tried an S rwd and it's prefect, funny and stable in my test, but I've only ask at Rennlist family, that have more experience, if in other circumstances the car is safe and planted anyway.
I know the difference between the two traction and I choose the Rwd because I've always wanted the Real Porsche experience, but my question is very far from your answer.
After an Audi A5 3.0 Quattro, a Panamera 4s, now a Macan S...i want back to rwd like my old 98 slk, ‘05 Porsche Boxster, my ‘12 bmw 3.0.
I have only ask here if new classic 911 is more safe, stable and modern between the curves in sporty driving mode or it’s similar to my old cars I wrote before (???)
this because I can’t tried limits in my little test and here in Italy we do not try the cars all day several times, but only quickly and we close the contract.
I’d like to try (no first family car) the purist experience...I know that for everyday I had to buy the 4 or 4s, but i have already a wad Macan S and I bought this 911 for w.e. and funny moment.
that’s it
Luckily the time is near so I’ll answer me in In few days
Probably I have chosen wrong words for my English and I can't explain well my idea.
i live in good weather 10 months in a year
I have tried an S rwd and it's prefect, funny and stable in my test, but I've only ask at Rennlist family, that have more experience, if in other circumstances the car is safe and planted anyway.
I know the difference between the two traction and I choose the Rwd because I've always wanted the Real Porsche experience, but my question is very far from your answer.
After an Audi A5 3.0 Quattro, a Panamera 4s, now a Macan S...i want back to rwd like my old 98 slk, ‘05 Porsche Boxster, my ‘12 bmw 3.0.
I have only ask here if new classic 911 is more safe, stable and modern between the curves in sporty driving mode or it’s similar to my old cars I wrote before (???)
this because I can’t tried limits in my little test and here in Italy we do not try the cars all day several times, but only quickly and we close the contract.
I’d like to try (no first family car) the purist experience...I know that for everyday I had to buy the 4 or 4s, but i have already a wad Macan S and I bought this 911 for w.e. and funny moment.
that’s it
Luckily the time is near so I’ll answer me in In few days
Probably I have chosen wrong words for my English and I can't explain well my idea.
01-05-2018, 02:46 AM
#19
Yes, but at the end I choose S because I have a Macan S for bad season.
I have tried an S rwd and it's prefect, funny and stable in my test, but I've only ask at Rennlist family, that have more experience, if in other circumstances the car is safe and planted anyway.
I know the difference between the two traction and I choose the Rwd because I've always wanted the Real Porsche experience, but my question is very far from your answer.
After an Audi A5 3.0 Quattro, a Panamera 4s, now a Macan S...i want back to rwd like my old 98 slk, ‘05 Porsche Boxster, my ‘12 bmw 3.0.
I have only ask here if new classic 911 is more safe, stable and modern between the curves in sporty driving mode, because I can’t try limits in my little test and here in Italy we do not try the cars all day several times, but only quickly and we close the contract.
I’d like to try (no first family car) the purist experience...I know that for everyday I had to buy the 4 or 4s, but i have already a wad Macan S and I bought this 911 for w.e. and funny moment.
that’s it
Luckily the time is near so I’ll answer me in In few days
Probably I have chosen wrong words for my English and I can't explain well my idea.
I have tried an S rwd and it's prefect, funny and stable in my test, but I've only ask at Rennlist family, that have more experience, if in other circumstances the car is safe and planted anyway.
I know the difference between the two traction and I choose the Rwd because I've always wanted the Real Porsche experience, but my question is very far from your answer.
After an Audi A5 3.0 Quattro, a Panamera 4s, now a Macan S...i want back to rwd like my old 98 slk, ‘05 Porsche Boxster, my ‘12 bmw 3.0.
I have only ask here if new classic 911 is more safe, stable and modern between the curves in sporty driving mode, because I can’t try limits in my little test and here in Italy we do not try the cars all day several times, but only quickly and we close the contract.
I’d like to try (no first family car) the purist experience...I know that for everyday I had to buy the 4 or 4s, but i have already a wad Macan S and I bought this 911 for w.e. and funny moment.
that’s it
Luckily the time is near so I’ll answer me in In few days
Probably I have chosen wrong words for my English and I can't explain well my idea.
01-05-2018, 11:22 AM
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01-05-2018, 11:39 AM
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Another thing you can do, to increase 'safety', it to stay out of the "Sport" and "Sport Plus" modes of the car. Sport/Sport Plus modes allow the PASM to be more aggressive and less invasive.
01-05-2018, 12:07 PM
#25
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In my experience the new 911 C2s is very very planted and stable. The longer wheelbase of the later model 911s goes a long way to reducing the oversteer tendencies of the rear engine design. The only moment I ever had in my 2017 911.2 C2s was exiting a sharp low speed turn on a cool day (45 degrees F) on full gas in sport plus mode. I hit a small damp patch and the back end started to slide, but the stability control kicked in and combined with me steering into the slide, the car straigtened out very quickly. Totally my fault as I was on the stock Pirelli P Zero summer tires. Otherwise the car has been incredibly planted and predictable. BTW I love the rear wheel steering. Makes the car even more agile and also comes in very handy in parking lots because it reduces the turning radius of the car. Glad I got it.
01-05-2018, 12:15 PM
#26
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In my experience the new 911 C2s is very very planted and stable. The longer wheelbase of the later model 911s goes a long way to reducing the oversteer tendencies of the rear engine design. The only moment I ever had in my 2017 911.2 C2s was exiting a sharp low speed turn on a cool day (45 degrees F) on full gas in sport plus mode. I hit a small damp patch and the back end started to slide, but the stability control kicked in and combined with me steering into the slide, the car straigtened out very quickly. Totally my fault as I was on the stock Pirelli P Zero summer tires. Otherwise the car has been incredibly planted and predictable. BTW I love the rear wheel steering. Makes the car even more agile and also comes in very handy in parking lots because it reduces the turning radius of the car. Glad I got it.
Awesome explanation and good news for me
Best regards
01-05-2018, 01:25 PM
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Your English is far better than my Italian, and I love Italy..... Last trip I rented a Fiat 500 and was off to the Ferrari Museums in Maranello and Modedo. I was weak after my museum tours and rented a 599 for a trip into the hills outside Maranello.
Ciao'!
Ciao'!
01-05-2018, 01:34 PM
#28
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I live very near (30km) to Maranello that is under Modena province.
A 599 trip into hills is a must... Good choice!
I hope you've passed happy and funny moments, also with food
01-05-2018, 10:32 PM
#29
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Thanks a lot, miglio--you made me hungry.
