991 c2s: safe driving, road holding and safety
01-04-2018, 09:18 AM
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991 c2s: safe driving, road holding and safety
Hello everyone, I would like some help from you for a doubt that came to me at the end of my waiting.
I bought a porsche 991 Carrera S(It arrives in few days) because at home we already have a Macan S for winter days or for mountain trips, so I'd like to have a pure 911 handling and sensations but safely
I have not been driving rear-wheel drive for about 15 years, so I was wondering if I will have any problems with fast driving (on dry) or any difficulty in daily driving (going quiet and flat) on wet (like rain)?
I ask you this because in my bmw or Mercedes 15 years ago often came under the oversteer, and I would not like it at all ...
I hope that the position of the engine in 911 and the technology improved in the meantime, will help me in a safe driving. Thank you all
I bought a porsche 991 Carrera S(It arrives in few days) because at home we already have a Macan S for winter days or for mountain trips, so I'd like to have a pure 911 handling and sensations but safely
I have not been driving rear-wheel drive for about 15 years, so I was wondering if I will have any problems with fast driving (on dry) or any difficulty in daily driving (going quiet and flat) on wet (like rain)?
I ask you this because in my bmw or Mercedes 15 years ago often came under the oversteer, and I would not like it at all ...
I hope that the position of the engine in 911 and the technology improved in the meantime, will help me in a safe driving. Thank you all
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01-04-2018, 09:35 AM
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Join your local PCA and autocross.
01-04-2018, 09:50 AM
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Keep the traction control/PSM on all the times. Don't overcook it into a corner thinking that PSM (Please Save Me! HA!) will fix terrible assinine driving. Push the car how it was intended and be smooth with it. PSM can correct for slight sloppiness, but not driving that physically cannot be reigned in by the electronics.
01-04-2018, 10:46 AM
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In my opinion, you don’t have much to worry about. With modern traction and stability controls, you should be very safe.
Autocross and track days are recommended though. You’ll learn some high performance safety, but you’ll also have an absolute blast!
congrats!
Autocross and track days are recommended though. You’ll learn some high performance safety, but you’ll also have an absolute blast!
congrats!
01-04-2018, 11:03 AM
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01-04-2018, 11:09 AM
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Nicola, did you order your car with Rear Wheel Steering?
01-04-2018, 11:14 AM
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No, because some instructor Porsche driving school during my order told me that optional is ok for track, but not for street or daily use.
They told me I would have to get used to the kind of feeling and driving, definitely different from the classic behavior of RWD.
I know probably with that optional I'd got more safety but I had to decide and now it's done
They told me I would have to get used to the kind of feeling and driving, definitely different from the classic behavior of RWD.
I know probably with that optional I'd got more safety but I had to decide and now it's done
01-04-2018, 01:17 PM
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Yes, Porsche's flagship sports car is very dangerous to drive fast. You should get a different car.
01-04-2018, 09:09 PM
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You don't mention where you are located, but try this. Find a large open (no obstacles) empty parking lot - shopping center, school, sports arena. Go and drive, first slowly then increase your speed until you become a little uncomfortable (i.e. push your limits). Try this both full stopping and sharp turns. This is a good way to learn the limits of both you and your car.
Of course, as others have mentioned, it's always best to practice these techniques in a supervised and controlled environment like drivers education clinics.
Of course, as others have mentioned, it's always best to practice these techniques in a supervised and controlled environment like drivers education clinics.
01-04-2018, 10:56 PM
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In my opinion, a 991 (especially rear drive), provides a unique driving experience. Maybe not the same as "classic" 911 feel, but the combination of rear weight bias, big rear tires, lighter front end, and chassis design means the driving sensation is centered over the rear axle. Merc's and BMW's (and any front engine/rear drive car) have a weight center (both actual and subjective) over the front end--and of course less weight over the driving wheels.
If your test drive felt good, then I suspect you will enjoy your car. And while I would also recommend finding opportunities to push your car closer to its limits, I suggest just getting lots of hours behind the wheel first, and get comfortable with the basic feel.
If your test drive felt good, then I suspect you will enjoy your car. And while I would also recommend finding opportunities to push your car closer to its limits, I suggest just getting lots of hours behind the wheel first, and get comfortable with the basic feel.
01-04-2018, 11:03 PM
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Nothing to worry about, miglio. Modern Porsches have all the bad habits taken out of them and along with the electric safety systems in place, you would have to be driving extremely fast and recklessly to get one out of shape enough to wreck the car. This was not the case in Porsches of old - early ones, even up to the 993 series, would bite you if you mis-handled them. There is an art form to driving older 911's quickly, but the new 991's are very much goof-proof. Drive as you would any other car, just don't push it too hard when the temps get near freezing on the roadways. Have fun!
