porsche4gts

Thank you guys for your input. I like the new tech - i am sure people in the 50s complained about fuel injection and independent suspension, but these are all good things.

I do not want to wait too long - some sites say that the 992 may be available as soon as 2018 as a 2019 model and some say it will be available in 2019 as a 2020 model. given that I want the gts, I might have to wait an extra year as these usually come out a year later. But I am just assuming things, so I wanted to see if people might know more than I do - it will be very helpful

koala

If you want a 992 GTS you might be waiting until as late as 2020 or 2021. Wasn't the first 991 GTS a 2015?

socalpcarfan

he should get the 999.99 version

porsche4gts

yep, it came out in November 2014 as a 2015 - so I am afraid the timelines you are specifying are probably in line for the new release.

Gus_Smedstad

I was pondering this thread and other threads where there's a certain culture here of automatic rejection of anything new. Not everyone of course, but a pretty vocal segment.

I think it's age. These are expensive cars, and except for the investment bankers or whatever who are pulling in tremendous incomes at an early age, it generally takes many years to get to the point where you can afford one. The older people get, the more they tend to reflexively reject change. It varies of course, some people remain mentally flexible forever, and some ossify mentally at 40, but I think that's the root cause. I'd like to think I'm keeping mentally flexible myself, but I've already reached the point where I can't stand most of today's music... :P

For myself, I prefer the MFD to the analog gauges, when I've got a choice. The display is always more readable, particularly since digital displays aren't limited to the physical characteristics of an analog meter. I like, for example, that I get the exact voltage from the 12v system, rather than "something between 12 and 14" that you got from cars of the 90's, if they had a battery gauge at all. I never look at the analog speedometer, since the numbers are tightly packed and it's difficult to see 10 MPH increments at a glance, let alone 1 MPH.

So yeah, in principle I welcome an all-digital dash. If I have any reservations, it's that I'm not overly impressed with Porsche's user interface design in the existing electronics. Navigation is notably clunky compared to a Garmin, for example. I expect if we get an all-digital dash, it won't be nearly as good as it could be.

Heh, that makes me think that maybe someday, we'll be rooting car electronics easily the way we can phones. Some aftermarket designers have to be better than what we've got.

sampelligrino

While I appreciate what Tesla has done (I have a Model X in the garage) and the design language of the new Panamera/Cayenne, it was for that reason that I went all in on a 991.2 GT3, as I wanted the NA motor and "analog" style interior with the gauges and buttons. One of my SAs joked that when he sells a new Panamera, he includes a glasses cleaning cloth with the purchase as its necessary for the customer since the fingerprints get bad on the glossy touch interior. The last gen Cayenne/Panamera and the 991 platform are my favorite interiors to date unless the 992 is a curve ball

I am actually a younger guy and I enjoy the latest tech like everyone else, but I don't want *everything* to be digital, or have to be plugged in and charged, etc.... In a way it's nice to check the time on my wrist with an automatic watch or drive in my 911 and listen to the engine and drive without too many electronic nannies (the Tesla basically has a force field around it lol)

IMO the 991.1 and 991.2 are the sweet spot where they have nice new tech that helps, but still retain that somewhat "analog" feel while being extremely comfortable to DD... I think the 992 will bring more digital/tech than what I would want in a 911, but who knows, maybe I'll be queued up drinking the koolaid like everyone else in a couple years time

and to the OP - life is short, just get what you want now and don't worry about what is coming as there is always something newer coming along...I think the 991.2 GTS is an awesome looking car and a great package

Crester

The tachometer will still be analogue. And the digital displays on either side will help with displaying various information.

Penn4S

I think its a dangerous assumption to believe that resistance to change is an age related issue of older drivers rejecting new tech.
Im 63 have owned 13 Pcars over many platforms, dont get caught up in the .1 vs .2 playground battle, and have embraced the new cars with vigor. But i do know what i like and i won't drive a car without soul.
As long as Porsche keeps making cars that make me smile and sweat in the palms i will be a customer. Gauge clusters wont be the tilting point.

Freddie Two Bs

I don't much care for those flashy vidogamey screens , and I won't need directions to Peterborough probably ever, so I would still take the analog cluster over that new one.

randr

Pretty much agree with this POV. Basically its simple, as soon as you sit in a Porsche sports car be it a base Cayman through to a GT2 RS you immediately know and feel you are in a Porsche sports car. Its a combination of seating position, forward visibility and layout - that "just works".

Likewise when you drive them, they have a certain clarity of purpose which translates in to an all round package e.g. in combination they nearly always have good braking, good handling and good all round performance.

Its a long term design strategy that has delivered a long term performance outcome, an automotive soul if you like - once this goes, game over.

I have no doubt the 992 will be a great sports car, but there is no need to wait - if you like the GTS specification in 991 form - take it off the lot. Lifes to short

.2PDK

Noah Fect

I dunno. My first impression was that it looks tacky, but that map display is pretty damned awesome.

Not sure I see the point in sticking with the analog tach. This is the kind of thing where you go all the way or don't go at all. Zombie Steve Jobs would $#!+ a brick if he saw that.

Unframed

How likely is it that the 992 will appear at Rennsport Reunion? It was pretty exciting to see the 991 in person and on the track for the first time at RSR 2011.

Bemo

The digital tach is awful. It’s cheaper to manufacture and program, it has nothing to do with what enthusiasts prefer.
Next you’ll tell me that a cheep plastic Apple watch is better than my Rolex. Serving multiple purposes while being shiny doesn’t make it better than a classy analog watch.
For everything else there’s PS4 or XBOX.

.2PDK

+1
It would be like putting in a nice shiny shifter that does all the shifting for you...