MT rollback control
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#17
It’s a great feature... but Porsche’s execution of it sucks. I had a Fiesta ST and 1) it worked great and 2) it was never a topic of forum disdain. It’s a regular discussion point here, some like it but plenty don’t. Should be defeatable on a 6-figure 3-pedal Car.
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Three Wheelin'
#19
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How to get used to Hill Hold? Release the clutch at half the speed you normally release the clutch and it all makes sense. If you release the clutch at a normal speed, you will stall it. Figured it out after stalling a few times at the top of the hill coming out of the Porsche Museum parking garage. It was a steep one. My wife in her 08 MT Cayman wouldn't drive her car there because of the steepness of the hill. Hill Hold on the 14 911/50--no problem!
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Get Hill Hold practice/tip:
Never manually release the e-brake when parked. Just have your seatbelt on, select your gear, forward or reverse, and go. This is basically the same sensation you get with Hill Hold.
Never manually release the e-brake when parked. Just have your seatbelt on, select your gear, forward or reverse, and go. This is basically the same sensation you get with Hill Hold.
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Three Wheelin'
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#23
A much quicker responding release would eliminate my complaint about it. Just too slow to release. Other manufacturers figured it out apparently.
#24
Firstly, any experienced manual driver shouldn't need this and sure as hell shouldn't lament the lack of a hand brake for it. I've used the handbrake as a crutch when teaching new drivers so they won't be nervous but it doesn't take more than half an hour of practice in a sloped parking lot to learn to get the car going properly without rolling back. If you're not a complete noob and still aren't comfortable with hill starts, I strongly suggest you add this to your list of skills to learn and go git 'er done.
That said... I agree with the people complaining about Porsche's implementation of the feature being less than optimal. It took a bit of getting used to. As mentioned above, it's a bit like getting going without releasing the parking brake. It holds you back a little so you have to account for it when you're driving. So long as you're accustomed to it, it's not big deal, but it's not ideal. I'd chalk it up to just being the way things are now except that my Jeep Wrangler has the same feature and it's completely seamless. If FCA can get it figured out properly, then Porsche has no excuses.
That said... I agree with the people complaining about Porsche's implementation of the feature being less than optimal. It took a bit of getting used to. As mentioned above, it's a bit like getting going without releasing the parking brake. It holds you back a little so you have to account for it when you're driving. So long as you're accustomed to it, it's not big deal, but it's not ideal. I'd chalk it up to just being the way things are now except that my Jeep Wrangler has the same feature and it's completely seamless. If FCA can get it figured out properly, then Porsche has no excuses.
#25
No snow in Chicago so I took the car out yesterday. It's a 991.1 and I verified that hill hold works in all modes including sport +. I don't like it but what I have found to work (or make it livable) is when it engages make sure the car is in sport mode. This sharpens up the gas pedal and makes it much easier to modulate the engine power upon release. In normal mode I find the gas pedal response to be delayed.
#26
My 997.2 TT has this feature and it comes in handy when on an incline. That said this is my first Porsche and I love the car with the exception of the hydraulic assisted clutch, it has very little feel to it compared to all other manuals I have owned. Other than that hands down most entertaining car I have ever owned.