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Old 10-23-2017, 09:29 PM
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Does the .2 GT3 come with a back-up camera
Yes, standard on U.S. cars, optional elsewhere.
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Old 10-23-2017, 10:53 PM
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I have no issue with Porsche adding as many variants as they want so I think the T is a good additional to the model range. I configured a T vs a GT3 as equal as I could option wise and the price difference is about $36K-40K. For that, I think the GT3 is a much better value as you will recoup most of that if not more on resale. I think the T is a great option if the GT3 is out of reach financially or simply due to demand.
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Old 10-23-2017, 11:17 PM
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You MIGHT recoup it on resale. That's been a recent development and by no means representative of residuals since the introduction of the GT3.

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I have no issue with Porsche adding as many variants as they want so I think the T is a good additional to the model range. I configured a T vs a GT3 as equal as I could option wise and the price difference is about $36K-40K. For that, I think the GT3 is a much better value as you will recoup most of that if not more on resale. I think the T is a great option if the GT3 is out of reach financially or simply due to demand.
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Old 10-24-2017, 01:28 AM
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too bad you can't turn off the nannies. that would have made it more special. problem with non-GT cars is you can't turn off TC; only stability control to a point and even then, it still intervenes during hard driving.
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Old 10-24-2017, 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Laguna_Dude View Post
too bad you can't turn off the nannies. that would have made it more special. problem with non-GT cars is you can't turn off TC; only stability control to a point and even then, it still intervenes during hard driving.
Agree. Key issue for a supposed drivers car.
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Old 10-24-2017, 04:11 AM
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Agree with that, but real life impact of nannies will depend on calibration. For a road-biased car, for most people, I don't think it's relevant unless it intervenes unnecessarily.
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Old 10-24-2017, 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Jon70 View Post
I have no issue with Porsche adding as many variants as they want so I think the T is a good additional to the model range. I configured a T vs a GT3 as equal as I could option wise and the price difference is about $36K-40K. For that, I think the GT3 is a much better value as you will recoup most of that if not more on resale. I think the T is a great option if the GT3 is out of reach financially or simply due to demand.
Know what you mean, think this T will be a great fun car. But it very easy to get to just under 100k with a reasonable spec here in UK.

Not a whole lot more will get a ex demo GTS, that's got the wider body, centre locks and another 80bhp etc
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Old 10-24-2017, 05:03 AM
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Is the "lightweight glass" (I presume lexan) even allowed to be delivered on US cars?
No, I think this is real glass, the same as the one used for the GT2 RS.
Much better from my point of view.
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Old 10-24-2017, 09:27 AM
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Love this. No it’s not that different. Same engine, mostly part bin stuff etc. But what’s important is that a basic driver’s car is being offered. The shorter ratio gears is particularly awesome. They didn’t even do that on the GT4! Will be interesting to see how many take it. Hopefully a lot so they make more of these.

If I wasn’t in the market for a GT3 I this would be my choice.
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Old 10-24-2017, 09:47 AM
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I think it is great for people in that range. Issue is that I just configured a “super light t” and it was 120+ due to PCCB and bucket seats.
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Old 10-24-2017, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Laguna_Dude View Post
too bad you can't turn off the nannies. that would have made it more special. problem with non-GT cars is you can't turn off TC; only stability control to a point and even then, it still intervenes during hard driving.
Really? Didn't realise that. That's a bit disappointing. Had thought this could be a nice car for road trips and some Ring laps, but a road tuned system would probably be way too intrusive on track.
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Old 10-24-2017, 10:41 AM
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Not necessarily... I tracked my .2 manual Carrera and it's the same engine & trans as in the 911T but no ltd slip nor SPASM nor the revised ratios. It held its own on the track vs. some higher powered cars. I turned off the nannies and was able to push relatively hard without unnecessary intrusion. Granted it's not a GT3-esque raw but for sure I believe the 911T will be loads of fun on the track as well. It's a street/backroad touring car first & foremost but with some occasional track use it'll be just as fun.

Here's my standard .2 Carrera giving the Limitless Motorworks Cayman Boss302 some fun on the tarmac... that V8-powered 987 puts out 424hp to the wheels.


I like this formula and as I stated before if I didn't have a GT3.2 now, then I'd order and personalize this new Touring model.

Basically I think the new 911T with the right options will be tons fun on or off the track... plus one should be able to negotiate & order one below msrp.
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Old 10-24-2017, 10:57 AM
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I want to like it but the 7 speed manual kills it for me. Certainly a lot to be said for an attempt at a "purist" or "drivers" car within the turbo-powered Carrera range. Makes sense to keep it turbo and leave NA for GT division IMHO. But it would need a proper 6 speed for me to want one, and outfitting it with one wouldn't step on GT toes like an NA motor would.
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Old 10-24-2017, 11:51 AM
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I like the specs but I hate the thought of paying more for less. Plus Porsche making a 29th variation of its 911 money maker gets tiresome.
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Old 10-24-2017, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban View Post
I think it is great for people in that range. Issue is that I just configured a “super light t” and it was 120+ due to PCCB and bucket seats.
$120k on a base manual is a lot. PCCB on a C2 probably won’t sell that well, or at least it would be tough sell around here and the street benefit of PCCB is mitigated a bit by the “brake dust Grey” color of the T wheels. Buckets on the other hand ....

Free color, buckets (including $910 for the mandatory alcantara wheel and shifter), fire extinguisher, autodim, and free smokers, leather dash and console trim is $110k which is solidly in average C2 money.

If I were ordering one for stock, this is what I would build.

http://www.porsche-code.com/PJ7GBLQ1

It takes advantage of the lower cost differential to get sport classic wheels on a T (popular since the 1 millionth) spends the $320 on SC so you don’t have to explain that it really has SC even though no wart .... and it is still under $112k.

The normal C2 stock MT for the lot build around here is 14way or 18way with premium and ventilated, (or premium plus which add even more cost), PSE, premium 20in wheels, sunroof, bose, SC, MF GT wheel and that is $108-115k depending on things like color (black, white, Silver or Grey sir!) and whether the roof is glass or not and whether it has 14 way or 18 way and premium or premium plus.
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