911 Carrera T
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The 911 T
This car doesn't have an engine that may require a special guarantee or a manual gear box that dissolves third
This car is lighter than a 991.1 GT3
This car has shorter gears
This car has sports pasm
This car has rear axle steering
This car has PTV
This car has 450Nm of torque from 1700rpm (GT3 460Nm at 6000rpm)
This car is available with LWB
This car is a Carrera with a long, long lineage
This car is for fun
The videos are nice too - similar to your (CJW) video with DF on the 718 GTS driving the old Targa Florio route - remember the Carmine Red one, the one you forgot to add to your list
Why?
Why?
This car doesn't have an engine that may require a special guarantee or a manual gear box that dissolves third
This car is lighter than a 991.1 GT3
This car has shorter gears
This car has sports pasm
This car has rear axle steering
This car has PTV
This car has 450Nm of torque from 1700rpm (GT3 460Nm at 6000rpm)
This car is available with LWB
This car is a Carrera with a long, long lineage
This car is for fun
The videos are nice too - similar to your (CJW) video with DF on the 718 GTS driving the old Targa Florio route - remember the Carmine Red one, the one you forgot to add to your list
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Why?
Last edited by randr; 10-25-2017 at 06:03 AM.
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The Carrera T is interesting you have a car for road ( with four seats you have a car for family and you can configure the car for more oriented performance ...) and a car car for begin some track day.
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Originally Posted by randr
The 911 T
This car doesn't have an engine that may require a special guarantee or a manual gear box that dissolves third
This car is lighter than a 991.1 GT3
This car has shorter gears
This car has sports pasm
This car has rear axle steering
This car has 450Nm of torque from 1700rpm (GT3 460Nm at 6000rpm)
This car is available with LWB
This car is a Carrera with a long, long lineage
This car is for fun
The videos are nice too - similar to your (CJW) video with DF on the 718 GTS driving the old Targa Florio route - remember the Carmine Red one, the one you forgot to add to your list
Why?
This car doesn't have an engine that may require a special guarantee or a manual gear box that dissolves third
This car is lighter than a 991.1 GT3
This car has shorter gears
This car has sports pasm
This car has rear axle steering
This car has 450Nm of torque from 1700rpm (GT3 460Nm at 6000rpm)
This car is available with LWB
This car is a Carrera with a long, long lineage
This car is for fun
The videos are nice too - similar to your (CJW) video with DF on the 718 GTS driving the old Targa Florio route - remember the Carmine Red one, the one you forgot to add to your list
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Same argument applies-
The BEST AVAILABLE 718?
Or the PRICED WELL 911?
A USED GT3?
Or a LEASABLE 911?
Best of 2016 that does not dip down?
A new wrinkle from 2018 we have no idea about.
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No rear axle steering, different driving experience? six cylinder twin turbo Vs 4 cylinder single turbo?
To get RAS etc you have to be in a .2 S or above, weight? seat?
Engine risk E, F, G - lawyer in the detail warranty? track abused?
Favourable terms?
It strikes me that the T may prove to be well placed for some buyers, svelte body, good gearing, plenty of torque and nice handling package.
To get RAS etc you have to be in a .2 S or above, weight? seat?
Engine risk E, F, G - lawyer in the detail warranty? track abused?
Favourable terms?
It strikes me that the T may prove to be well placed for some buyers, svelte body, good gearing, plenty of torque and nice handling package.
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The 911 T
This car doesn't have an engine that may require a special guarantee or a manual gear box that dissolves third
This car is lighter than a 991.1 GT3
This car has shorter gears
This car has sports pasm
This car has rear axle steering
This car has PTV
This car has 450Nm of torque from 1700rpm (GT3 460Nm at 6000rpm)
This car is available with LWB
This car is a Carrera with a long, long lineage
This car is for fun
The videos are nice too - similar to your (CJW) video with DF on the 718 GTS driving the old Targa Florio route - remember the Carmine Red one, the one you forgot to add to your list
Why?
Why?
This car doesn't have an engine that may require a special guarantee or a manual gear box that dissolves third
This car is lighter than a 991.1 GT3
This car has shorter gears
This car has sports pasm
This car has rear axle steering
This car has PTV
This car has 450Nm of torque from 1700rpm (GT3 460Nm at 6000rpm)
This car is available with LWB
This car is a Carrera with a long, long lineage
This car is for fun
The videos are nice too - similar to your (CJW) video with DF on the 718 GTS driving the old Targa Florio route - remember the Carmine Red one, the one you forgot to add to your list
![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Why?
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Does anyone else think that the shorter gearing on this is a bit of an admission from Porsche?
Why would they need to make a 911 'more sporty'?
As a sports car, shouldn't the vanilla 911's be sporty out of the box?
Why would they need to make a 911 'more sporty'?
As a sports car, shouldn't the vanilla 911's be sporty out of the box?
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Why not just find a low miles 997 GTS if one would want a so to speak purist/driver enthusiast 911 version ?? Hmmm - It has reasonable weight, NA motor, sport exhaust, powerkit, 408HP, great suspension set up, widebody rear wheel drive, diff, classic alcantara interior, centerlocks, highly regarded handling and performance, really the last mechanical/somewhat analog 911.
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I think the T just gets the S/GTS final drive ratio. I don’t believe it is more than 5 percent different than the base, but I have not seen anything published about the actual T final drive ratio.
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Really interesting car that seems like it would make a great daily driver, but I just don't know that I can convince myself that I need 3 911s in the garage.
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s it would be more challenging selling the many $ S and the $$ GTS variants ... Porsche wants to max total income and dealers want to max new car " sitting on the lot " unit sales volume since warranty work and annual maint service -whether a base or 991 Turbo S cab - pays for this ever growing now mainstream brand's staff and facilities
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Fuel economy. Same reason we're stuck with vacuum cleaner engines across most of the line now.
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^yes that.. But I would lean more towards Porsche trying to secure market share in China.. China will soon be the #1 market and all manufacturers know that.
Their middle class is going to clip 500 million people, very soon..
Their middle class is going to clip 500 million people, very soon..
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Originally Posted by Bardman
I found the staged nature of that video a little awkward. Was hard to reconcile the CJ we see here on rennlist with the one frothing over alcantara seats. I also noted they referred to him as an ex baseball player rather than a flogger of their wares... ![ooops](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/icon501.gif)
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Most has been said, I fall into the "its an interesting car" crowd. A GT3 touring prices about 165-170K for most, I priced this sparsely but nicely equipped for 111K - that's a 50-60K discount. That's meaningful.Like most, I am bothered by the turbo.
The one thing I haven't seen on this tread (sorry if I overlooked) is the new wheel technology! Absolutely amazing! Porsche has figured out a way to revolutionize the typical GT car center nut with a new 5 nut system that you can change with any old torque wrench from Ace hardware. it requires no cheater bar, no pedal block, no friend, no chance of misalignment, a breakthrough in technology.
The one thing I haven't seen on this tread (sorry if I overlooked) is the new wheel technology! Absolutely amazing! Porsche has figured out a way to revolutionize the typical GT car center nut with a new 5 nut system that you can change with any old torque wrench from Ace hardware. it requires no cheater bar, no pedal block, no friend, no chance of misalignment, a breakthrough in technology.