Sleepy996

If you do not have the means to throw down for a 458 or 488 why not get a 991 Turbo S with low miles and certified ? Exhaust and a tune and you will blow the doors off a 458 and possibly the 488 as well ontop of being reliable and daily drivable. Do it....

Unconscionable

EXACTLY!! There isn't any theoretical reason it can't be used every day. But 911s flying under the radar is their best attribute.

People don't realize how much attention an exotic sports car can garner.... it's problematic.

randr

The Cayman 718 S is quite easily one of the best sports cars made by Porsche

Gus_Smedstad

The odd thing is that, reading the text, you'd think that they'd ranked the 488 #3 and not #1. They say a lot more negative things about the car than they do about the Cayman or the Turbo S.

The only exception that comes to mind is that Derek Powell said the 488 was "fun even when driving at the lower limits" vs. Erick Ayapana claiming the Turbo S was "boring" unless driven hard. Otherwise it felt like it was all the other way.

arter

Randy didn't like it as such. He sounded as if it was a point and shoot car as he had issues in the corners with it. He really liked the engine though.

bwiele

That F1 car video made me lol several times. My wife thought I'd lost my mind.

maxpowers

I drove a Ferrari 430 at an Autocross and really enjoyed driving it and am shocked you can't get the gated shifter anymore.

For me driving is all about enjoying the experience of driving yourself and that includes the 3 pedals, gear shift, brake, gas pedal, and the sound of the engine and feel.

If the car does any of these for me it robs me of the fun, no matter how fast it is.

fast1

It's like watching a world champion ping pong player playing a world class tennis pro.

fast1

I don't think that just because a car costs more means that the owner will necessarily enjoy the car more than a lesser priced car. In a similar vein I don't think a higher HP car will necessarily bring the owner more satisfaction. My brother for example owns a 991 Turbo S, which I get to drive on a regular basis. The acceleration is awesome, but to me it's not worth the $75K premium over a 991S. This is not meant to be a criticism for those who own a Turbo, but it just has way more potential than can be approached on the street. Granted that the same can be said for a 991S, but at least it doesn't cost $200K+.

One of my neighbors owns a Ferrari 458 which he purchased from Ferrari of Washington. He's owned the car for about two years, and the last time I talked to him he had less than 1500 miles on the car. When I asked him about the low mileage, he has four other vehicles, he told me that there just isn't too many places where he feels comfortable taking his car. For example he drives into Baltimore regularly to watch the Orioles and the Ravens and dine at the many fine restaurants, but he doesn't want to take his car into the city. So when you have a car which will generate a great deal of attention, where do you take it?

Porscheforever

He liked the car so much that he ended up buying it, is how I see it though. It is not how much miles you can put into the car, it is how much smiles the car put to your face.

mdrums

Yep!

fast1

Fortunately for me I don't have to purchase a $300K car to put smiles on my face. A Porsche will do quite fine. OTOH if I had a million dollar a year income, I suppose the price of a Ferrari would be chump change.

manitou202

Good timing with this article.

http://blackflag.jalopnik.com/the-re...***-1803132786

manitou202

I just recently rode in and got to drive my brother's F430. It's a wonderful car. Way better driving than I expected and the engine is amazing. It's also a gorgeous car that makes most 911's look boring.

But I couldn't believe the attention. It was out of this world. I can't believe how many people were taking pictures of us driving around. I definitely couldn't live with that. If I owned a Ferrari I would only drive it on the weekend early in the morning on mountain roads without traffic.

It really made me appreciate the high performance yet inconspicuous design of the 911.

randr

The issue the 430 had was its handling, it just wasn't that good - great looking car, sounds great, nice piece of theatre

The 458 was a big step up and the 488GTB another fairly big step up. The engine really is magnificent, certainly the best road legal car/engine I have personally driven.