Feeling a little foolish and weird for spending $150k on a car
#16
My net worth is a bit higher than the liquid net worth I mentioned, since I have a house and no mortgage. I usually only look at my liquid net worth because you can't spend a house.
I've socked money away for some time, but not specifically for this. More out of reflex, and for continuing income. It's just snowballed a bit.
I'm a bit worried about the "how long will you keep it" issue. I had my Supra Turbo for 16 years, but only kept my Panamera and the C4S cab for 18 months each.
My image of myself is of a person who keeps his cars for a long time, but that hasn't been my recent history. With the Panamera it was somewhat justified, since the car was just too big and not responsive enough for me, coming from a sports coupe.
The C4S cab sale isn't justified, really.
I've been retired for 13 years.
#17
Firstly,don't give out personal information like that on a public site. It's no ones business but yours. Secondly,IMHO, your gross income is way too low to justify a car that expensive. Talk to your accountant. Keep the one you have unless there is a problem with it. Yes, yolo but as you approach retirement you may regret the purchase. Of course , all bets are off if you are expecting a large inheritance. And no, you don't have to tell us your fathers net income.
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#21
Long story short if you can afford it you can have it. If you feel silly well you feel silly. Once you get behind the vehicle you'll be ok.
What I am more curious about is what does one have to do to be retired and have a passive annual income of $210k?
What I am more curious about is what does one have to do to be retired and have a passive annual income of $210k?
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maschinetheist (10-18-2020)
#22
Unless you are trolling, which it doesn't appear so, you seem to have very good control of your expenses and your future. You know you can afford it and we are more than willing to tell you to go for it.
This expenditure is not going to change your good financial habits in the long term and you already know these cars are not money pits on maintenance so go for it and enjoy the new GTS.
This expenditure is not going to change your good financial habits in the long term and you already know these cars are not money pits on maintenance so go for it and enjoy the new GTS.
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981KMAN (10-15-2020)
#24
In 2013, the median household income of a Porsche buyer was $390k (US). Average net worth was north of $3M. Both according to a 2013 issue of Forbes.
Take that as you wish. Personally, I say sieze the moment. You are clearly financially disciplined and that is what makes this viable. You have a lot of disposable income. Dispose of it and enjoy if all your other needs (including retirement savings) are covered.
Every kid costs a middle class family about US$250,000 post tax dollars to the age of 18 (so that is before college!). So you have saved half a million bucks compared to most on this board (if they are average breeders).
We have no kids, no mortgage and no car payments. And solid job security. Somewhat below the Porsche buyer income metrics quoted above (I may be worth more dead than alive!!!). And 4 Porsches, only one of which was bought new ('15 Macan). The two '73 cars (an S and an RS) are part of our net worth and a fun investment we can drive. Cost very little when they were originally purchased years ago.
So every situation is different. There is no single guideline other than enjoy what you have left over after all the basics are taken care of.
Take that as you wish. Personally, I say sieze the moment. You are clearly financially disciplined and that is what makes this viable. You have a lot of disposable income. Dispose of it and enjoy if all your other needs (including retirement savings) are covered.
Every kid costs a middle class family about US$250,000 post tax dollars to the age of 18 (so that is before college!). So you have saved half a million bucks compared to most on this board (if they are average breeders).
We have no kids, no mortgage and no car payments. And solid job security. Somewhat below the Porsche buyer income metrics quoted above (I may be worth more dead than alive!!!). And 4 Porsches, only one of which was bought new ('15 Macan). The two '73 cars (an S and an RS) are part of our net worth and a fun investment we can drive. Cost very little when they were originally purchased years ago.
So every situation is different. There is no single guideline other than enjoy what you have left over after all the basics are taken care of.
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#28
My liquid net worth is $1.7 million. Which is not a figure I normally discuss, but I imagine a lot of owners on this board are at least that well off.
We do get threads here on a regular basis from people talking about their C2S / C4S / GTS orders. I'm just wondering if anyone else gets similarly weirded out.
We do get threads here on a regular basis from people talking about their C2S / C4S / GTS orders. I'm just wondering if anyone else gets similarly weirded out.
But I'd suggest removing all your financial information from this thread.
#29
210k take home is much different than 210k pretax. Other things to consider are kids/future kids, age, stability of job and future potential earning power. Without directly talking about my own personal wealth. I wasn't going to get a late model Porsche until car was 1/4 of annual take home and can easily pay cash. Probably more importantly is what age do u want to retire? Can you easily work to the age of expected retirement? How much of a nest egg will you have? Will you have reoccurring income (e.g. Dividends) or will it be a gradual erosion of your principle?
Personally, I want to retire at 55 with 5 mil. A lot will depend on the healthcare situation. I just got a 991.2. I figure I can have one more Porsche before I retire.
One thing I don't understand is why not finance. I got a rate of 1.99% APR and have investment income of >20% for last 12 months.
Personally, I want to retire at 55 with 5 mil. A lot will depend on the healthcare situation. I just got a 991.2. I figure I can have one more Porsche before I retire.
One thing I don't understand is why not finance. I got a rate of 1.99% APR and have investment income of >20% for last 12 months.
#30
My wife isn't retired. We've discussed this, and she doesn't want to retire yet. I'm a value investor in stocks, and I do fairly well. My contribution to that figure was about $130k.
It's somewhat appalling that you would even wonder that. I thought I was being more transparent than that.
Basically, I was wondering if there was a segment of this board that also thought, "man, it's weird that we spend this kind of money on cars."
Also, when I'm having troublesome feelings, I often feel it helpful to talk through them. In hindsight, this maybe wasn't a good forum for that. But if not here, where? Caring about cars to this degree seems like a niche interest.
Of course, there is no doubt a segment here that's extremely well off, and don't see it as a big expenditure. I just thought that the spectrum was wider than that, since I see a fair number of loan and lease topics, and I assume the Quite Wealthy don't need to bother with those.
I hadn't realized it was so rarified. Again, I thought the spectrum was a bit wider than that, due to the loan and lease topics.