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Old 04-24-2018, 07:21 PM
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Sorry for the lousy iPhone pics.
Just got my new wheels/tires.
BBS fi-r and Techart springs.
Ride is very close to stock.


Thanks to all of you that posted pics previously.
It helped tremendously!
And thanks to Eric, Supremepower!
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Looks amazing. These should have been fitted as OEM!
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Originally Posted by Gsin
Sorry for the lousy iPhone pics.
Just got my new wheels/tires.
BBS fi-r and Techart springs.
Ride is very close to stock.


Thanks to all of you that posted pics previously.
It helped tremendously!
And thanks to Eric, Supremepower!
Thank you! Glad everything came out to your satisfaction!
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Old 05-04-2018, 03:46 PM
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Guys,

I finally had these wheels installed on my 2018 Turbo S today. They look great (pictures to come after I wash the girl). But, the wheels appear to be a different offset than the factory wheels. Maybe it's just me though.

Can someone please confirm that these are the stock sizes/offsets please?

Front = 9 x 20, ET 52
Rear = 12 x 20, ET 44

Thank you!
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Originally Posted by JSA
Guys,

I finally had these wheels installed on my 2018 Turbo S today. They look great (pictures to come after I wash the girl). But, the wheels appear to be a different offset than the factory wheels. Maybe it's just me though.

Can someone please confirm that these are the stock sizes/offsets please?

Front = 9 x 20, ET 52
Rear = 12 x 20, ET 44

Thank you!
2018 991.2 spec I read was 9x20 RO 51 and 11.5x20 RO 56. Same for 991.1. The BBS F1-Rs do stick out a bit more, filling the wheel wells better.
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Originally Posted by Need4S

2018 991.2 spec I read was 9x20 RO 51 and 11.5x20 RO 56. Same for 991.1. The BBS F1-Rs do stick out a bit more, filling the wheel wells better.

Am I correct in assuming the front change is 1mm further in, and the rear is 12mm further out?

And if that is correct, wouldn't the car have less front grip?

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Originally Posted by JSA
Am I correct in assuming the front change is 1mm further in, and the rear is 12mm further out?

And if that is correct, wouldn't the car have less front grip?
Other direction. The BBS give a wider track and more grip. I was giving stock offsets. Your stock width and offset info was not correct.
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Originally Posted by Need4S

Other direction. The BBS give a wider track and more grip. I was giving stock offsets. Your stock width and offset info was not correct.
Other direction?! So, the front is further out by 1mm and the rear is further in by 12mm?!

I was using the stock width info that you provided.

Your comment about the BBS having a wider track, would cause more REAR grip than the front thus changing the balance of the car!

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Okay, I figured this one out...

I have the wrong rear wheel. I was sold a wheel for a GT3 that takes a different width and offset. See this chart - https://bbs.com/pdfs/gutachten/FIR.pdf

So, I'm correct in that the REAR track width is wider thus the REAR grip only was increased OVER the front. This changes the balance of the car. I'm NOT happy right now. I will be raising hell with the shop that sold me these wheels on Monday!
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The specs I posted for the OEM wheels came from a Porsche configurator for centerlock turbo S models, 9x20 51 and 11.5x20 56. 991.1 non-s turbos come with five lug 8.5x20 51 and 11x20 56. I have since found 2018 GT3 OEM specs at 9x20 55 and 12x20 47. Note that the OEM GT3 wheel is 12 inches wide, not 11.5, which may explain why the offsets differ between OEM turbo and GT3 wheels.

BBS specs I found are 9x20 48mm front and 11.5x20 46 mm rear for F1-R wheels for turbos given by TireRack. I doubt the small change in offset will materially upset handling balance, and it seems likely that differences in tire pressure will have greater effect. After actually looking at the posted BBS link, though, I am incorrect about BBS spec’ing the same wheel for the turbos and GT3s, and wondering why TireRack seems to have the same error.

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Thanks for the info.

See the link that I posted above. There is a different rear wheel for the GT3 and Turbo. The front wheel is the same.

Making the track 1” wider in the rear only does give the rear more grip and change the balance of the car. The shop knows they sold me the wrong rear wheel and they’re going to make it right. But it’s still a PITA.

And, I have an incoming 991.2 GT3 and I never would have bought these wheels had I known the offsets were different. The shop told me they were the same - bad info.

For quick reference, the correct REAR BBS wheel for our Turbo is 11.5 x 20, ET54.

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Originally Posted by JSA
Thanks for the info.

See the link that I posted above. There is a different rear wheel for the GT3 and Turbo. The front wheel is the same.

Making the track 1” wider in the rear only does give the rear more grip and change the balance of the car. The shop knows they sold me the wrong rear wheel and they’re going to make it right. But it’s still a PITA.

And, I have an incoming 991.2 GT3 and I never would have bought these wheels had I known the offsets were different. The shop told me they were the same - bad info.

For quick reference, the correct REAR BBS wheel for our Turbo is 11.5 x 20, ET54.
Thanks for the helpful info. I’ve edited my post accordingly.


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Originally Posted by JSA
Thanks for the info.

See the link that I posted above. There is a different rear wheel for the GT3 and Turbo. The front wheel is the same.

Making the track 1” wider in the rear only does give the rear more grip and change the balance of the car. The shop knows they sold me the wrong rear wheel and they’re going to make it right. But it’s still a PITA.

And, I have an incoming 991.2 GT3 and I never would have bought these wheels had I known the offsets were different. The shop told me they were the same - bad info.

For quick reference, the correct REAR BBS wheel for our Turbo is 11.5 x 20, ET54.
FWIW......56 is the rear ET for FACTORY 5 lug 20" Turbo/S wheels
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Originally Posted by Hothonda
FWIW......56 is the rear ET for FACTORY 5 lug 20" Turbo/S wheels
Thanks. Assuming it’s the same for the centerlock, that makes sense on why the BBS is very close at 54 offset.

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Originally Posted by SupremePower
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Hey Eric
Can you send me a PM on pricing and offset info for my 2014 Turbo S 20" with the translucent black brushed. Great job on the finishing. My car is GT Silver. If you have any other color recommendations send them along. My car has a lot of black trim and rear Aerokit with black top wing.
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