Foxsasha

Ok, great, thanks.

Ive been onto the UK Pagid motorsport distributor today re RSC1s and they said:

"The compound used as OE on that car (GT3 RS) is not RSC1 but a more road focused material only available from Porsche."

Just FYI as I saw it mentioned earlier that the GT3s run essentially RSC1.

Randyc151

A Pagid USA rep told me "essentially RSC1", but it's a Porsche specific part number for OEM. I've been using them for quite a while and they last longer, grind less, and generally are more friendly if you track the car, but the TTS OEM pads do have a better initial bite on track...they just get shredded and crack up badly with any track use.

I have noticed zero difference from OEM for road use with the Pagid, either.

Foxsasha

Good stuff. Its now officially winter here, snowed yesterday, so opportunities for track work are few and far between. Booked in again on the 3rd December. Fingers crossed itll be dry.

turbo8765

Hoosier will have the R7 available in 20" sizes in 2017. No idea at this point whether they will have diameters/widths appropriate for the turbo.

Karl911

Yeah, it was rumor this year too!

turbo8765

Spoke with Hoosier about a month a go. He said they were currently tooling up for the 20" R7's.

He said they would be available by mid season 2017.

Randyc151

Heard this last December, too. Hope it's true this time. I'm a buyer!

Jason @ Paragon Products

Just a little clarification regarding the Pagid RSC1. RSC1 and the OE PCCB pad are definitely different. RSC1 has more friction, higher initial bite and is more heat resistant than the OE pad.

Randyc151

The OEM TTS and GT3/GT3RS pads are different. I've been saying the RSC1 is "essentially" similar to the GT3 OEM part, which is also made by Pagid for Porsche. I've used the TTS OEM part on my car, the GT3 OEM part on my car, and the RSC1 on my car.

With countless hours on track with both pads in a 991.2 TTS, the RSC1 has slightly less initial bite than the TTS OEM pads, but much better consistency and heat resistance, and lasts much longer. It feels and performs very, very similar to the GT3 part, and lasts similarly. Yes, I'm sure something might be different between them, but there's not much diff between the GT3/GT3RS part and the RSC1.

Jason @ Paragon Products

A lot goes into the development of a pad compound. The friction materials used and how much pressure and heat is used in the forming of the pad. An OE pad needs to be better in NVH (noise, vibration, harshness) than a race pad. RSC1 isn't as bad in NVH as some race compounds and the fact that you've discovered better performance with minimal downside is a good thing! The whole RSC lineup has proved to be very popular.

Need4S

So does everyone with stock car run 32psi front/ 34psi rear, hot?

BTW, whether anyone will need brake upgrades is highly dependent on your driving ability (more experienced drivers brake later and harder) and the track (longer straights, hairpins at the end, etc.). So far I've found no need for any brake upgrades (tells you my ability, ha!).

rcg412

33/34 so close enough

Randyc151

I'm running my MPSC2 tires at 30/33 these days hot. Don't know about Pirelli or other compounds

Karl911

I have serious question in regards to RSC1 pads vs OE in regards to PCCB front rotor life. i replaced my front OE front rotors at 30 K miles and about 25 track days with a set of OE rotors. i since put 15 track days and about 13k miles on my second set. Approx about my last 8 trackdays with a set of your Pagid RSC1 Pads. MY front rotors are TOASTED again
RSC1 Lasted about 2 x longer than OE Pads.
MY BIG QUESTION IS " ARE THE TOUGHER, LONGER LIFE RSC1 PADS, WHICH LAST LONGER, CAUSING PREMATURE ROTOR FAILURE"
This could be due to higher temp being generated with RSC1 Pads.
HELP spending to much $$$

Randyc151

Can you get a second opinion on those rotors, or how do you know they are toast? I put 40+ days on my last car and the rotors were still OK when I sold it.

I'm going to Daytona International next month, so let's get to the bottom of this ASAP!! I've never heard of your kind of brake wear schedule, Karl.