Porsche 911 turbo s ( Daily driver )
#61
Sorry for the way OT comment, except to the extent that it relates to DD use. I could not get Michelin Alpins for my PGTS in late Nov so went with Pirelli SZ's. They work as well as any other winter compound tire I have used, although i have not had Alpins on a car for the last 7 years or so. Stopping is impressive on hard-packed snow/ice and turning 8's in a big lot nearby in 4-6 inches of snow was no problem. Also have Pirelli SZ's on the TTS wheels mounted at the factory on TTS wheels and have not tested them on snow or ice yet. SZ's in the dry/cold weather definitely do not have the cornering stability of summer tires in warm weather and I would not use them in warm weather. I would be surprised if Porsche would mount under-performing tires, but that is only my opinion.
#63
Carbon ceramic brakes have a very high temperature capability, are 50% lighter, produce much less dust, will not corrode from water or salt, and should have a life of near 100,000 miles of normal road use. That's essentially the life of the car the way most of these are driven. The weight reduction lowers the unsprung vehicle weight thus improving handling.
#64
Burning Brakes
The only real downside is replacement cost. While they will last 100k miles if you drive your car normally, everyone In the service part of Porsche has warned me that tracking them will cut their life considerably. And if you need a complete brake job including rotors the cost is more than $20k! If just the pads go, replacing those are not expensive. But the cost of new rotors is staggering. Means I don't intend to be doing much tracking with my TTS.
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Has anyone here owned both the 991.1 TTS and then upgraded to the 991.2 TTS???
If so, How's the comparison? If someone was going to purchase, is the .2 worth the extra coin??
If so, How's the comparison? If someone was going to purchase, is the .2 worth the extra coin??
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I have never driven a 991.1 TTS. Only a 991.2 TT and TTS. The TTS sounds a little different to me. Not sure if it's the different turbos or what...
I love the 18-ways in my TTS, I've had them in every Porsche I've owned since 2012.
I love the 18-ways in my TTS, I've had them in every Porsche I've owned since 2012.
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Is it worth the extra coin?
IMHO that depends on how much extra coin, and I will say in general, it is too much extra coin and therefore no. The price point we are starting to see on 991.1 Turbos and Turbo Ss are fantastic with so much depreciation already squeezed out of them, where as the .2 TT and particularly TTS still have a fairly long way to go on depreciation curve.
And the differences are comparatively small compared to say 997.1 Turbo vs. 997.2 Turbo, or 997.2 TTS vs 991.1 TTS...
991.1 TTS vs. 991.2 TTS: Different turbos with more power, carplay integration, nicer steering wheel. All nice (but definitely not essential) upgrades, Is that worth $30K-50K extra to you?
@Big Swole , I know you like to tinker, and IMHO a 991.1 Turbo S (or even a non S) for $85-95K with $5-7K of mods is going to light up your world as much or more than a $130-150K 991.2 Turbo S and the $30-50K savings can IMHO be put to far better uses...
For me, it was really simple calculus. The price difference between the .1 and .2 TTS is about the same value as my ridiculously sorted 996 Turbo. Would I trade my 996 turbo for a nicer stereo and steering wheel? lol. I'm keeping my twin twin turbos...
991.1 Turbo or Turbo S with some miles on it, plus a DSC+ controller, plus some sticky Cup 2's, plus an aggressive alignment, plus a cat bypass, (plus a cobb custom tune) = rock your world for not much more $ than you could get for your 997.2 Turbo S,.
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The billet compressor wheels on the 991.2 TTS AND the fuel system upgrades were nice improvements to the stock platform and make for a great power gains with a tune alone - that made the $30K-50K worth it to me as a new buyer, combined with the other changes - I really wanted the LCA for example. But, that’s not BigSwole’s question which is more interesting and is directed at previous owners of a 991.1 TTS.
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Do you also have ventilated seats? I think the ventilation option removes some of the padding in 18 way seats. Either that or i'm getting old and need my back adjusted.