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Old 05-20-2014, 10:22 PM
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I'm posting in both 991 and TT forums just as I go to bed, so I won't be back online until sometime tomorrow.
I have an order in for a '15 C4S that doesn't lock for a few weeks, tentatively due in late July/August. I found out late today I can get a TT allocation for late summer/early fall ("September"). The C4S is configured so the sticker is very close to $140K, making the delta on a TT I would order around $25K. That amount of money is not insignificant to me, but as I expect to own either car for several years, will not be the deciding factor.
I'm all ears (eyes) for thoughts, + or - for each choice. The main "advantage" of the C4S to me is the available MT (my preference), but it's not a deal breaker for the TT. Even an old goat like me has to admit how impressive the PDK is.
Any thoughts welcome. I have driven 991 C2S (PDK) and C4S (PDK and MT) but not the 991TT. The last turbo I drove was a 997 TTS, which felt very fast coming from a 993.
I'm checking the insurance price change, but would appreciate any info on differential in upkeep, etc. I plan to keep either car at least 4-5 years or so.
I'm leaning to the TT, but interested in hearing from current owners of either/both.
Thanks!
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Old 05-20-2014, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Keadog View Post
I'm posting in both 991 and TT forums just as I go to bed, so I won't be back online until sometime tomorrow. I have an order in for a '15 C4S that doesn't lock for a few weeks, tentatively due in late July/August. I found out late today I can get a TT allocation for late summer/early fall ("September"). The C4S is configured so the sticker is very close to $140K, making the delta on a TT I would order around $25K. That amount of money is not insignificant to me, but as I expect to own either car for several years, will not be the deciding factor. I'm all ears (eyes) for thoughts, + or - for each choice. The main "advantage" of the C4S to me is the available MT (my preference), but it's not a deal breaker for the TT. Even an old goat like me has to admit how impressive the PDK is. Any thoughts welcome. I have driven 991 C2S (PDK) and C4S (PDK and MT) but not the 991TT. The last turbo I drove was a 997 TTS, which felt very fast coming from a 993. I'm checking the insurance price change, but would appreciate any info on differential in upkeep, etc. I plan to keep either car at least 4-5 years or so. I'm leaning to the TT, but interested in hearing from current owners of either/both. Thanks!
I drove a c4s and a tts back to back, not even close. Interestingly beside the obvious power difference, the rear wheel steering is AMAZING. hands down.
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Old 05-20-2014, 11:06 PM
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Not even close.....get the turbo....it will blow you away
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Old 05-20-2014, 11:58 PM
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Not even close.....get the turbo....it will blow you away
Yep. I was in the same position. 4500 miles in, absolutely no regrets at paying the extra money for a Turbo (S, in my case). Fantastic car.
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I've been a confirmed clutch-pedal-or-die driver "forever". The PDK in the TT has made a believer out of me though -- it's PFM...can't say enough good things about it...and don't forget chrono sport so you get launch mode...muahahaha!
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Thanks. TTS a little too pricey for me and I wasn't interested in PCCB or center locks. I expected positive feedback here (and glad to see it) but also quite + on 991 forum.
I'm talking with the dealer after work today. I'll report back...
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Get a nicely optioned base TT like I did for 165-170 and you won't regret it one second. As mentioned above, w/ the RWS, the TT is actually lighter in feel than the C4S and better handling, as well as far more powerful.
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Old 05-21-2014, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ajag View Post
Get a nicely optioned base TT like I did for 165-170 and you won't regret it one second. As mentioned above, w/ the RWS, the TT is actually lighter in feel than the C4S and better handling, as well as far more powerful.
Two questions:
1. On the LED lights, can you turn off the automatic dimming function for oncoming (and approaching from the rear) traffic. Of course I always dim my lights in these settings, but prefer deciding when to do it myself.
2. PDCC - were you able to drive cars with and without to decide on getting it?
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The auto dimming function I find works effectively in all situations. Not sure if you can cancel it but you probably can, but in my experience... why would you!

I'd only consider PDCC if you plan on tracking your car extensively, which I am not...

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The auto dimming can be turned off and on. There are three options for the brights: on off and auto. You just cycle through them. I just got my car this week without PDCC. I drove a c4s with and without it and it felt a little artificial over our bumpy chicago roads. I would get it if I was planning to track a lot but in daily driving I certainly don't miss it. The suspension is really good without it.
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GT3 or TTS for me, a fully loaded C4S is as expensive as TT, then why not get RWS and more hp, because of the N/A? then why not get a GT3 for the same price.
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Originally Posted by mikemiaos View Post
GT3 or TTS for me, a fully loaded C4S is as expensive as TT, then why not get RWS and more hp, because of the N/A? then why not get a GT3 for the same price.
I had the exact same thought process. Anyone who hasn't tried a TT or TTS doesn't know what they are missing. The effect of the rear wheel steering is really noticeable and fantastic.

I sat there and built a c4s that would have cost high 140s....candidly I said why the f not and sprung for a TTS. Absolutely no regrets. I would have regretted a c4s.

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Originally Posted by jlee504 View Post
I had the exact same thought process. Anyone who hasn't tried a TT or TTS doesn't know what they are missing. The effect of the rear wheel steering is really noticeable and fantastic. I sat there and built a c4s that would have cost high 140s....candidly I said why the f not and sprung for a TTS. Absolutely no regrets. I would have regretted a c4s. Jeff
I would second that. I just got my relatively base spec TT last week. It is amazing. The 4 wheel steering is a huge advance over the C4S. The power and grip are phenomenal. I suspect the difference between a TT and a tts are relatively small in comparison to a TT and a C4S. The price differential between a C4S and a TT is a no brainer in my mind.
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I would second that. I just got my relatively base spec TT last week. It is amazing. The 4 wheel steering is a huge advance over the C4S. The power and grip are phenomenal. I suspect the difference between a TT and a tts are relatively small in comparison to a TT and a C4S. The price differential between a C4S and a TT is a no brainer in my mind.
I would have bought a TT but there weren't any in stock that were spec'd right. And after the gt3 debacle I wanted something quickly so a TTS was the way to go. That said from a cost standpoint. The extra standards are way cheaper than buying a TT and adding them on.

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I had the same exact thought process and had specked out a C4S with MT that came almost to the price of the TTS! Instead I just fell for the dealers TTS launch car and can say that the car, and in particular the PDK transmission is a terrific experience. If you are anxious that you will be missing that special something of a MT, I would add that the PDK fits the personality of the TTS "to a tee" and I could barely even imagine the car with a MT. It would feel somehow out of place.
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