speed21

Agree. These others can sniff the tailpipes of GTR, that is if they can ever get themselves close enough.

ajag

+1 There's no doubt the GTR has put pressure on the TT/TTS performance, but not so much price-wise. I'm hoping the entry level McLaren and the AMG GT have enough success to do that.

Rocket_boy

Certainly they can, they are all better driver cars day-in, day-out. No they won't beat it on the track but that is only 1% of buyers. For daily driving all the above are better and more rewarding,.....and yes, many people have driven a GT-R and passed on it.

I've sampled a GT-R twice, once before purchasing a 2011 C4S & then present 2013 991S,....each time it was an easy choice.

If you just look at the track numbers, your missing all the other attributes that make a great sports car.

Every Porsche sports car & even the old C6 Corvette outsold the GT-R by many times over and for very good reasons....

http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2011/01...s-figures.html

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richk

Here is my 250k breakdown:

2011 911 GTS coupe...loaded black/black pdk 120K

2014 GTR black edition...black/black plus few mods 115k

GTR is daily driver...GTS is weekends and track! I am in love with both cars and they are totally different.

DaveChapin

Hmm, when the GTR was $70k, the value proposition was pretty compelling. But the C6-like Corvette interior on a car with a sticker now north of $100k for the "base car" and between of $150k and $200K for the NISMO version... well are you kidding?

So the value argument while not gone has certainly leached away quite a bit which means the performance numbers really have to make up for the lack of build quality, prestige, and yes Looks. So how do they stand? We don't have a whole lot of instrumented tests for the Turbo or Turbo S and none for the latest 2015 GTR variants, but we do for the 2014 GT3 and the 2014 GTR Track Edition — and from the same publication no less (Car&Driver), so it's the best objective comparison I know of.

So, how do the cars stack up purely on the numbers?

2014 GTR Track Edition: [As tested price: $117k]
0-60: 2.9sec
5-60: 3.8sec
30-50: 3.8sec
50-70: 3.1sec
QtrMile: 11.2sec @124
Skidpad: 1.02g
Braking 70-0: 145ft [Some Fade]

2014 GT3: [As tested price: $142k]
0-60: 3.0sec
5-60: 3.9sec
30-50: 2.2sec
50-70: 2.1sec
QtrMile: 11.2sec @126
Skidpad: 1.12g
Braking: 135ft [No Fade]

So the GTR Track Edition has a 0.1sec edge in 0-60 & 5-60. Ties on the 1/4 mile, and gets crushed in road holding, braking, and intermediate acceleration. Who in their right mind would get this Nissan rather than pay 20% more and get a Porsche GT3? (Or only 10% more if you can live without the PCCBs?)

And before someone says "but it did the Ring in 7:08"; it did NOT. A non-street-legal one-off NISMO variant hit that number. For your $117k, the GTR (you can actually buy today) will not be close to that.

doubleurx

I am still amazed at those GT3 numbers! I first read through that quickly and thought those were turbo numbers. GTR is really impressive also.

My GT3 gets here on April!

br911

I know it is a matter of personal taste, but in my case I agree with DaveChapin "who in their right mind...." But we are not alone. Proof of that is that you cannot buy a 2014 GT3 (unless you bought it already). With luck, maybe a 2015. I am pretty sure that if I wanted, I could have a GTR in my garage before the weekend. Last week I received 8 calls form 2 different people offering me a test drive in the SLS AMG - I finally had to answer the phone to give it a stop (not driving it). I think it is difificult to beat the combination performance / style / price / brand of the GT3, but other cars have their followers as well. But a lot less, it seems.

Leo997TT

You can make a pig go fast but still a pig...