Price negotiations buying a CPO 991.2 Turbo S from a dealer
#17
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Wow- that rear bumper looks terrible to me. I couldn't live with that- it looks like there is a sizable area of paint missing below the license plate area and more defects up higher. The bumper will need to be re-sprayed. How could they not point that out? I get a few small rock chips here and there, but not this.
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#18
Wow- that rear bumper looks terrible to me. I couldn't live with that- it looks like there is a sizable area of paint missing below the license plate area and more defects up higher. The bumper will need to be re-sprayed. How could they not point that out? I get a few small rock chips here and there, but not this.
there are 3 marks, one on top, one to the left and one to the bottom. The bottom is actually a small hole.
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I had to go back to dealer today since tech forgot my valve stem caps when I had tires replace. I saw the car outside so just did a quick look while here. Car could use a good cleaning as the road in front of dealer is being replaced so it’s pretty dusty, it also has some polishing compound that needs to be cleaned up. Also had a little damage to rear bumper, the rest of car doesn’t look bad, it does have clear bra on the front.
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Lance 4c (08-28-2021)
#20
I passed along the 'findings' to the salesman. They apparently weren't aware and it is going to the body shop for this 'minor' work. Missing something like this makes me wonder if the overall condition is as pristine as I was told.
Last edited by robininni; 08-27-2021 at 09:26 PM.
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#21
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Wow….
They weren’t aware…. of holes ….in the bumper…. where the license plate that says CPO was mounted by someone from the dealer. I wonder how that car passed the CPO inspection? Did salesman send you the report?
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Lance 4c (08-28-2021)
#22
No CPO report but I got all service records to look at. It does seem amazing to miss this. Otherwise, the car sounded stellar. I’m just very appreciative to the rennlister who took time out of his day to discover this, photograph it, and post it. That was above and beyond. I keep thinking… what if I had bought this and it arrived like that? Anyway, I have decided to pass on this one although I’m sure they’ll fix this nicely.
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#23
the car overall looked good just needed to be cleaned. i didnt get to look at the interior or under the car. honestly the bumper damage looked like it may have happened from the dealer. it looked fresh. they had 3 turbo's pulled up so close to a curb.
#24
I had to go back to dealer today since tech forgot my valve stem caps when I had tires replace. I saw the car outside so just did a quick look while here. Car could use a good cleaning as the road in front of dealer is being replaced so it’s pretty dusty, it also has some polishing compound that needs to be cleaned up. Also had a little damage to rear bumper, the rest of car doesn’t look bad, it does have clear bra on the front.
Thumbs way up to you Sir. People like you in these forums really add value.
OP - you need to visit the car yourself, even with a PPI inspection. it's needed. believe me.
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#26
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Porsche dealers often advertise a car as "CPO", but don't actually go through the CPO process right away or sometimes not even until they have a buyer...
Here is a sample CPO checklist, see if your dealer can provide this to you if you are really interested in the car...
Last edited by pfbz; 08-29-2021 at 03:36 PM.
#27
Thanks, and wow, that CPO report is detailed. Yeah, nothing like that was offered, just service invoices. But I decided I'm not interested any more with that rear bumper gash being missed by the dealer multiple times by multiple people. I went back and looked at the pics from the website and it's right there in the pics too, although you might not know what you are looking at and gloss over it easily with the resolution available. But anyway, that damage didn't just happen, it's been like this and somehow no one there noticed...
#28
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Thanks, and wow, that CPO report is detailed. Yeah, nothing like that was offered, just service invoices. But I decided I'm not interested any more with that rear bumper gash being missed by the dealer multiple times by multiple people. I went back and looked at the pics from the website and it's right there in the pics too, although you might not know what you are looking at and gloss over it easily with the resolution available. But anyway, that damage didn't just happen, it's been like this and somehow no one there noticed...
The car will be gone over much more carefully during the CPO process, just insist on seeing and approving the documentation before finalizing the sale. I'm guessing the paperwork hasn't been given to you yet because it hasn't actually gone through the CPO process yet.
As long as there is either an appropriate price adjustment for the rear bumper skin repair (it's a pretty easy job) and no carfax entry (or a significantly bigger adjustment), it might be a fantastic car. The build certainly looks nice...
One of my buddies has a nearly identical car... 991.2 Turbo S, Sapphire Blue, Aerokit with black trim, etc. and it is absolutely stunning in person (and of course extremely quick...)
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