6 month ownership... Mixed feelings - time to move on already now?
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If the difference is more than 20K - you could fix all the issues for less than that. Springs, Seatbelts, Car Play + back up Camera. Probably for less than 10K
As to speed - a Turbo S is only fast if the boost is on. So if you or your wife arent on it - its not like an unmanageable car in any sense. If it isnt on boost its like a regular Carrera NA 3.8 from a bygone era. If you're pottering around in normal - its a little lamb - my wife finds it so much easier to drive than my old 997 C2S. And she definitely didnt love my Lambo which just left.
So before you spend 20K - just be wise about it. The springs are probably a big cause of your dislike.
As to speed - a Turbo S is only fast if the boost is on. So if you or your wife arent on it - its not like an unmanageable car in any sense. If it isnt on boost its like a regular Carrera NA 3.8 from a bygone era. If you're pottering around in normal - its a little lamb - my wife finds it so much easier to drive than my old 997 C2S. And she definitely didnt love my Lambo which just left.
So before you spend 20K - just be wise about it. The springs are probably a big cause of your dislike.
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Hi Op,
I'm also from Switzerland and have a 51k km 991.1 tts from 2015.
Not sure you'll get 100k. I asked many garages as I was envisaging trading mine, the highest I got was 107k as trade in price.
I would definitely say that if you are considering just swapping for another 991.1 tts with your wanted features, it's just better to as them than to switch the car..
I'm also from Switzerland and have a 51k km 991.1 tts from 2015.
Not sure you'll get 100k. I asked many garages as I was envisaging trading mine, the highest I got was 107k as trade in price.
I would definitely say that if you are considering just swapping for another 991.1 tts with your wanted features, it's just better to as them than to switch the car..
Thank for jumping in... I already got an ok trade in quote from Porsche (not too far off from yours) and subject to test driving the GTS - and them to check out the Turbo S - I'll most likely go with the offer. Have it lined up for now on Thursday morning...
Yes, this lesson has taught me a few things and also cost me quite a bit BUT at least I'll have a car I can enjoy (with my better half as well) which almost as important as driving the 911 in itself.
May I ask what Canton you're in? as you can see I'm in FR
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If the difference is more than 20K - you could fix all the issues for less than that. Springs, Seatbelts, Car Play + back up Camera. Probably for less than 10K
As to speed - a Turbo S is only fast if the boost is on. So if you or your wife arent on it - its not like an unmanageable car in any sense. If it isnt on boost its like a regular Carrera NA 3.8 from a bygone era. If you're pottering around in normal - its a little lamb - my wife finds it so much easier to drive than my old 997 C2S. And she definitely didnt love my Lambo which just left.
So before you spend 20K - just be wise about it. The springs are probably a big cause of your dislike.
As to speed - a Turbo S is only fast if the boost is on. So if you or your wife arent on it - its not like an unmanageable car in any sense. If it isnt on boost its like a regular Carrera NA 3.8 from a bygone era. If you're pottering around in normal - its a little lamb - my wife finds it so much easier to drive than my old 997 C2S. And she definitely didnt love my Lambo which just left.
So before you spend 20K - just be wise about it. The springs are probably a big cause of your dislike.
I just picked up a 2015 TTS, all stock, and it rides as it should, but I rode in my buddy's 997TT with lowering springs and it is too bouncy for my taste.
I think leaving these cars on stock suspension if the best choice for most purchasers, unless the "look" is more important than a decent ride.
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If the difference is more than 20K - you could fix all the issues for less than that. Springs, Seatbelts, Car Play + back up Camera. Probably for less than 10K..As to speed - a Turbo S is only fast if the boost is on. So if you or your wife arent on it - its not like an unmanageable car in any sense. If it isnt on boost its like a regular Carrera NA 3.8 from a bygone era. If you're pottering around in normal - its a little lamb - my wife finds it so much easier to drive than my old 997 C2S. And she definitely didnt love my Lambo which just left...So before you spend 20K - just be wise about it. The springs are probably a big cause of your dislike.
1. Yellow seatbelts - these can be changed: https://www.suncoastparts.com/product/991DBELTS.html
2. Yellow stitching - you can use a marker pen to change the color - they have been doing this mod on Corvettes for years: https://www.corvettemods.com/Leather...s%20ad%20group
3. Apple carplay: can add a kit from joye2auto or carplay2air, the guys on 991 forum seem to have good success with it: https://rennlist.com/forums/991/1045...91-1-a-67.html
4. Reverse camera: many aftermarket options here, too numerous to list
2. Yellow stitching - you can use a marker pen to change the color - they have been doing this mod on Corvettes for years: https://www.corvettemods.com/Leather...s%20ad%20group
3. Apple carplay: can add a kit from joye2auto or carplay2air, the guys on 991 forum seem to have good success with it: https://rennlist.com/forums/991/1045...91-1-a-67.html
4. Reverse camera: many aftermarket options here, too numerous to list
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I share a similar sentiment between the 991.2tts and my 996tt.
Although the 991.2 is a road legal missile, refined, under warranty, I find that the digital nature of the car (and the lack of a manual) make the 996tt a more engaging car to drive. I like the comfort on the road of the 991.2 and it's ability to eat miles comfortably for hours on end is unmatched.
But... the lack of analogue involvement and the coarseness of flinging around a manual is always in the back of my mind. I'm not going to get rid of the 991.2, its purpose is well defined, but it is most unlikely that Porsche is ever going to bring back a manual in the turbo line, so the 996tt will be a forever car.
If you are in a position to get what you want, and that will bring joy to your driving experience (and lady wife for that matter...), go for it because you only live once, and living with regret sucks.
Although the 991.2 is a road legal missile, refined, under warranty, I find that the digital nature of the car (and the lack of a manual) make the 996tt a more engaging car to drive. I like the comfort on the road of the 991.2 and it's ability to eat miles comfortably for hours on end is unmatched.
But... the lack of analogue involvement and the coarseness of flinging around a manual is always in the back of my mind. I'm not going to get rid of the 991.2, its purpose is well defined, but it is most unlikely that Porsche is ever going to bring back a manual in the turbo line, so the 996tt will be a forever car.
If you are in a position to get what you want, and that will bring joy to your driving experience (and lady wife for that matter...), go for it because you only live once, and living with regret sucks.
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I share a similar sentiment between the 991.2tts and my 996tt.
Although the 991.2 is a road legal missile, refined, under warranty, I find that the digital nature of the car (and the lack of a manual) make the 996tt a more engaging car to drive. I like the comfort on the road of the 991.2 and it's ability to eat miles comfortably for hours on end is unmatched.
But... the lack of analogue involvement and the coarseness of flinging around a manual is always in the back of my mind. I'm not going to get rid of the 991.2, its purpose is well defined, but it is most unlikely that Porsche is ever going to bring back a manual in the turbo line, so the 996tt will be a forever car.
If you are in a position to get what you want, and that will bring joy to your driving experience (and lady wife for that matter...), go for it because you only live once, and living with regret sucks.
Although the 991.2 is a road legal missile, refined, under warranty, I find that the digital nature of the car (and the lack of a manual) make the 996tt a more engaging car to drive. I like the comfort on the road of the 991.2 and it's ability to eat miles comfortably for hours on end is unmatched.
But... the lack of analogue involvement and the coarseness of flinging around a manual is always in the back of my mind. I'm not going to get rid of the 991.2, its purpose is well defined, but it is most unlikely that Porsche is ever going to bring back a manual in the turbo line, so the 996tt will be a forever car.
If you are in a position to get what you want, and that will bring joy to your driving experience (and lady wife for that matter...), go for it because you only live once, and living with regret sucks.
IMO - The TT is the best all arounder out there. But its not the most hardcore or engaging or loudest or most fun. Its really really good at a bunch of things.
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I would agree with that; that's why I am coveting the warranty...
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Frank, it sounds like you're doing the right thing for all the right reasons. Modifying it would be like doubling down on the initial purchase mistake and end up just adding to the regret.
I'm feeling exactly the same way about my 991.2 TTS and '14 Viper TA with a stick. It's become clear that there's no way to find everything I want in one car so I just might as well give up on that notion.
I share a similar sentiment between the 991.2tts and my 996tt.
Although the 991.2 is a road legal missile, refined, under warranty, I find that the digital nature of the car (and the lack of a manual) make the 996tt a more engaging car to drive. I like the comfort on the road of the 991.2 and it's ability to eat miles comfortably for hours on end is unmatched.
But... the lack of analogue involvement and the coarseness of flinging around a manual is always in the back of my mind. I'm not going to get rid of the 991.2, its purpose is well defined, but it is most unlikely that Porsche is ever going to bring back a manual in the turbo line, so the 996tt will be a forever car.
Although the 991.2 is a road legal missile, refined, under warranty, I find that the digital nature of the car (and the lack of a manual) make the 996tt a more engaging car to drive. I like the comfort on the road of the 991.2 and it's ability to eat miles comfortably for hours on end is unmatched.
But... the lack of analogue involvement and the coarseness of flinging around a manual is always in the back of my mind. I'm not going to get rid of the 991.2, its purpose is well defined, but it is most unlikely that Porsche is ever going to bring back a manual in the turbo line, so the 996tt will be a forever car.
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Then, it started to rain, a little at first, followed by constant, driving rain. It was early fall, so there hadn't been tons of rain yet, so the roads became pretty slick.
At this point, the pucker factor increased exponentially because I soon found the car very difficult to drive and apply power, add to the fun the hydro planing action, and I was thinking, the sooner it was parked, the happier I would be.
I am not sure what the best all around car is, there are many I would still like to try, but I am of the opinion that the 911 series is one of the better ones - at least when I hydro-planed it at 140kmh, it still kept going straight...
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Always exciting...but I'm still thinking a nice 911 C2 or C4 might be ideal for Frank!
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*Now wants to try a 2013+ Viper*
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To the OP - sounds like you should trade in the current ar and get a 991.2 GTS or Turbo, whichever you can find a better deal on. Either will be an improvement, based on your criteria, and a chance to get rid of the annoyances. Also, given that you do not need all the power, GTS may do the job just as fine.
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To the OP - sounds like you should trade in the current ar and get a 991.2 GTS or Turbo, whichever you can find a better deal on. Either will be an improvement, based on your criteria, and a chance to get rid of the annoyances. Also, given that you do not need all the power, GTS may do the job just as fine.
@Bruce H. my 2 first 911's were C4S' and really enjoyed them, so thought a GTS would make more sense, and to try something else (for now)... I may come back to the Turbo/S one day, but for now I'm feeling all good :-)
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