Dragy 1/4 mile test today with the 2019 TTS
04-12-2019, 11:48 PM
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My 2017 went 135.99 with a 2000 DA. I don't think the 2018/2019 cars are making more power than that. Original OEM tires, manuals in the glovebox, tools in the frunk.
04-12-2019, 11:56 PM
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Hi Steve. Just to be clear; You are saying that your bone stock Turbo S trapped 136 MPH - at 2000 DA?
04-13-2019, 12:31 PM
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Steve must weigh like 97 lbs.!! LOL
136 is stupid fast for a stock TTS!!
136 is stupid fast for a stock TTS!!
04-13-2019, 12:46 PM
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The reason I ask is that - to my knowledge - that is an unheard of MPH for a 911.2 Turbo S. You ran a 10.7.
Now had your 60’ been a 1.8x - I could see it potentially as crappy 60’s can give you a higher trap speed. But it was a low 1.6x. Your back half was over 32 MPH.
That said - Tom ran a 10.51 AND a 131 - at almost 4000 DA. 2000 DA difference is 2 tenths and 2 MPH easily.
Good news is I will test this theory myself in about 2-3 weeks. We shall see.
Now had your 60’ been a 1.8x - I could see it potentially as crappy 60’s can give you a higher trap speed. But it was a low 1.6x. Your back half was over 32 MPH.
That said - Tom ran a 10.51 AND a 131 - at almost 4000 DA. 2000 DA difference is 2 tenths and 2 MPH easily.
Good news is I will test this theory myself in about 2-3 weeks. We shall see.
04-13-2019, 12:58 PM
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Yeah, without mods, I think 136 for stock tts is a bit optimistic.
Can't blame the guy if there were timing / trap speed issues at the track.
He's just going on his slip, but it does seem it could be off.
60 ft. and ET look about right for the car though. Just not the trap.
Maybe there was a Heck of a tailwind. lol
Can't blame the guy if there were timing / trap speed issues at the track.
He's just going on his slip, but it does seem it could be off.
60 ft. and ET look about right for the car though. Just not the trap.
Maybe there was a Heck of a tailwind. lol
04-13-2019, 03:25 PM
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Yeah, without mods, I think 136 for stock tts is a bit optimistic.
Can't blame the guy if there were timing / trap speed issues at the track.
He's just going on his slip, but it does seem it could be off.
60 ft. and ET look about right for the car though. Just not the trap.
Maybe there was a Heck of a tailwind. lol
Can't blame the guy if there were timing / trap speed issues at the track.
He's just going on his slip, but it does seem it could be off.
60 ft. and ET look about right for the car though. Just not the trap.
Maybe there was a Heck of a tailwind. lol
That said - 10.51 at ~4000 DA - with only a 1.60 60’ - is crazy. At 1000 DA that is at least a mid-high 10.3x. Which - I believe - would be a stock 991.1 or 991.2 record (10.43 or 10.46 I believe is the known record for a bone stock car?). And his car is on Pirellis - which I can tell you from experience - stink.
04-13-2019, 03:31 PM
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Exactly.
This guy has a 997.2 TTS like mine with tuning from Sam.
Probably making close to 600 whp with just tuning / exhaust like mine.
10.3 at 130.6 mph with a 1400 DA
And that's with a 1.56 60Ft.
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...-4-mile-2.html
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This guy has a 997.2 TTS like mine with tuning from Sam.
Probably making close to 600 whp with just tuning / exhaust like mine.
10.3 at 130.6 mph with a 1400 DA
And that's with a 1.56 60Ft.
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...-4-mile-2.html
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04-13-2019, 03:34 PM
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The trap speed wasn't off. The car has gone 134mph several other times. That night, it was whipping the *** of a 690whp Mustang GT 500 all night by a couple tenths and 7-9mph. He was getting 125-128mph traps, I was consistently 131-134 most of the night, the first run was the anomaly because I was the first car on the track as far as prep etc. goes. Note the car in the other lane for that slip ran under 92mph - IIRC it was an Accord "Sport"
The car surprised a lot of people, myself included. My time back at the track last year, I couldn't get over 134mph but it was still running 131+ consistantly.
There are literally no mods other than a scratch I put on it with my garage door. :/ Pirelli P0 N1s, if I have to be specific on the tire (stock fitment)
The car surprised a lot of people, myself included. My time back at the track last year, I couldn't get over 134mph but it was still running 131+ consistantly.
There are literally no mods other than a scratch I put on it with my garage door. :/ Pirelli P0 N1s, if I have to be specific on the tire (stock fitment)
04-13-2019, 03:38 PM
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The trap speed wasn't off. The car has gone 134mph several other times. It was whipping the *** of a 690whp Mustang GT 500 all night by a couple tenths and 7-9mph. He was getting 125-128mph traps, I was consistently 131-134 most of the night, the first run was the anomaly because I was the first car on the track as far as prep etc. goes. Note the car in the other lane ran under 92mph - IIRC it was an Accord "Sport"
The car surprised a lot of people, myself included. My time back at the track last year, I couldn't get over 134mph but it was still running 131+ consistantly.
There are literally no mods other than a scratch I put on it with my garage door. :/
The car surprised a lot of people, myself included. My time back at the track last year, I couldn't get over 134mph but it was still running 131+ consistantly.
There are literally no mods other than a scratch I put on it with my garage door. :/
We totally believe you about the car being stock and that your slip shows the 135.99
BUT, you just said yourself, that it "Mostly" was in the 131 - 134 range.
That's more in line with what we've seen from stock 991.2 TTS's.
Unless you could duplicate it a few times, then I'd say "something" played a factor in that one high trap.
Either way man, you have a very strong running TTS and Congrats!
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04-13-2019, 04:00 PM
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The trap speed wasn't off. The car has gone 134mph several other times. That night, it was whipping the *** of a 690whp Mustang GT 500 all night by a couple tenths and 7-9mph. He was getting 125-128mph traps, I was consistently 131-134 most of the night, the first run was the anomaly because I was the first car on the track as far as prep etc. goes. Note the car in the other lane for that slip ran under 92mph - IIRC it was an Accord "Sport"
The car surprised a lot of people, myself included. My time back at the track last year, I couldn't get over 134mph but it was still running 131+ consistantly.
There are literally no mods other than a scratch I put on it with my garage door. :/ Pirelli P0 N1s, if I have to be specific on the tire (stock fitment)
The car surprised a lot of people, myself included. My time back at the track last year, I couldn't get over 134mph but it was still running 131+ consistantly.
There are literally no mods other than a scratch I put on it with my garage door. :/ Pirelli P0 N1s, if I have to be specific on the tire (stock fitment)
04-13-2019, 04:00 PM
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We totally believe you about the car being stock and that your slip shows the 135.99
BUT, you just said yourself, that it "Mostly" was in the 131 - 134 range.
That's more in line with what we've seen from stock 991.2 TTS's.
Unless you could duplicate it a few times, then I'd say "something" played a fact in that one high trap.
Either way man, you have a very strong running TTS and Congrats!
BUT, you just said yourself, that it "Mostly" was in the 131 - 134 range.
That's more in line with what we've seen from stock 991.2 TTS's.
Unless you could duplicate it a few times, then I'd say "something" played a fact in that one high trap.
Either way man, you have a very strong running TTS and Congrats!
Remember that Tom ran a 10.51 with only a 1.60 to your 1.63 60’ - at +4000 DA. That DA compared to +1000 DA is literally night and day. The 131 trap speed at that altitude is easily a legit reading 133+ at near sea level. Which is very stout.
Again - I am going to the track in a few weeks - the DA should be anywhere from low-mid-high 1000’s to maybe 2000 tops.
And I have the Michelin’s. So no excuses - as long as there is some form of track prep - if I run a 10.68 at 131 MPH - with a low 1.6x 60’ - then the car is no different than any other 991.2 Turbo S. If I run a sub 10.5 at 132+ MPH - I am going to say that there might be something to the Exclusive Tune rumour.
lets also not forget that the tune is only 27 extra HP (607). So it isn’t night and day. The bigger part of the tune however is that there is no overboost on the Exclusive - it’s always 553 lb feet. I believe that is more of an affect than the HP bump.
I shall post my results here - no matter what.
04-13-2019, 04:17 PM
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Killer. First of all, you have a killer fast car. Period. Possibly a Porsche ringer. Please don't take any of the curiosity questions wrong. Not meant to be . Just trying to understand the specifics. I've been NHRA racing other platforms since 1978 at multiple tracks on the East Coast. Also a few IHRA tracks. Are all of your speeds at the same track ? V brought up your back half as he is a seasoned racer as well and a 32mph back half takes a lot of power. More than a stock 690hp GT2Rs has. You could be over boosting from the factory. A few things to look at. The ET With a 1.63 sixty does not match the 136 or 134mph. The 1/8th ET and mph looks spot on with a 1.63 sixty and a FAST TTS. IHRA and NHRA tracks "generally" measure the final trap speed with a measurement 66ft before the finish line and one at the finish line. Then it is averaged and printed onto the slip. VBox and Dragy do the same average "trap" speed calculation. "Some" tracks play with where they place those sensors for "record" speeds to attract racers/fans....I've seen it. One NHRA 1/8th mile track I went to for the first time my ET dropped from 6.0 to 5.7 AND my trap speed also decreased by 5 mph. On the same tune up. I was totally confused. Car was quicker ET and slower MPH at the same time from last week. Substantially. At a worse DA... Made zero sense. I was concerned the engine was jacked and was ready to leave. An official came up and asked why I was leaving early.....told me not to worry.....they moved BOTH the ET and the MPH timers back for "record" ET passes...okkkkkkkkay....(should have left the mph sensors alone).
This ^^
^This. Since being back you are in the 131 range - which is what we would expect (but is still strong).
Remember that Tom ran a 10.51 with only a 1.60 to your 1.63 60’ - at +4000 DA. That DA compared to +1000 DA is literally night and day. The 131 trap speed at that altitude is easily a legit reading 133+ at near sea level. Which is very stout.
Again - I am going to the track in a few weeks - the DA should be anywhere from low-mid-high 1000’s to maybe 2000 tops.
And I have the Michelin’s. So no excuses - as long as there is some form of track prep - if I run a 10.68 at 131 MPH - with a low 1.6x 60’ - then the car is no different than any other 991.2 Turbo S. If I run a sub 10.5 at 132+ MPH - I am going to say that there might be something to the Exclusive Tune rumour.
lets also not forget that the tune is only 27 extra HP (607). So it isn’t night and day. The bigger part of the tune however is that there is no overboost on the Exclusive - it’s always 553 lb feet. I believe that is more of an affect than the HP bump.
I shall post my results here - no matter what.
Remember that Tom ran a 10.51 with only a 1.60 to your 1.63 60’ - at +4000 DA. That DA compared to +1000 DA is literally night and day. The 131 trap speed at that altitude is easily a legit reading 133+ at near sea level. Which is very stout.
Again - I am going to the track in a few weeks - the DA should be anywhere from low-mid-high 1000’s to maybe 2000 tops.
And I have the Michelin’s. So no excuses - as long as there is some form of track prep - if I run a 10.68 at 131 MPH - with a low 1.6x 60’ - then the car is no different than any other 991.2 Turbo S. If I run a sub 10.5 at 132+ MPH - I am going to say that there might be something to the Exclusive Tune rumour.
lets also not forget that the tune is only 27 extra HP (607). So it isn’t night and day. The bigger part of the tune however is that there is no overboost on the Exclusive - it’s always 553 lb feet. I believe that is more of an affect than the HP bump.
I shall post my results here - no matter what.
And This!! ^^
All good everyone!! So awesome to see what modern tech can do.
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