Dr Chill

TTS all day long. Would insist on having wrap removed to assess paint first.

Wouldn't the front spoiler be covered under warranty if it was more than just cosmetic damage and the pneumatic mechanism required replacement?

Elliott991TS

I never thought of what could be hiding under the wrap, good thought! Especially with known damage to front lip, could be damage elsewhere...

SLC Tortfeasor

I've never driven a car with PCCB, but I've been leaning against getting them because of the extraordinary cost to replace them, and how squeaky they can be.

Steve Theodore

It depends. If your use case will consist of real track time, then the PCCBs will eventually cost you real money. If you're more of a weekend warrior and don't plan on tracking much or at all, go PCCB all day long. They are amazing for so many reasons, but the lack of brake dust is the icing on the cake. I want all my cars to have PCCBs!

worf928

From the look of it, the lip damage was caused by road debris or 'curbing.' Since the lip is extended one might assume that the pneumatics are good. If not, and if there are 'witness marks' on the pneumatic mechanism that coincide with the slash on the lip, then it stands to reason that the pneumatics were damaged by whatever slashed the lip.

PCNA won't warranty a part damaged by foreign objects and debris. A dealer *might* goodwill a repair though.

SLC Tortfeasor

Thanks for all the input, gentlemen. I think I am going to let both of these go, and focus on less expensive cars. I think that while I could afford to buy one, the stress of owning such an expensive vehicle is just too much for me at this point, and I'll probably be happier with something less extreme. I'm now focusing more on 997.2 turbos and 991.1 Carrera S cars now.

Steve Theodore

There are some great deals out there on 997.2 TTS cars, and it would absolutely scratch that itch and save you quite a few dollars on the price of entry.

Dr Chill

Doubt it. I'm always happier in the long run when I spend 20% more than my initial budget. Go big.

928 GT R

I have both ceramics and conventional brakes. The lack of dust from the ceramics is great, but the fact that they are very sensitive to being wet, squeak like crazy, are soooooo incredibly sensitive to chipping and cost so much to repair left me wanting non-ceramics on my recent TT purchase. I know we are all different in selecting our priorities, but if these rotors do not stand up to track days, what makes me think I will not be replacing them after 100k of spirited driving on the street?

SLC Tortfeasor

Steve Theodore

All I can offer is that I have a set of PCCB rotors with 67k miles on them (2010 GT3 RS 3.8). How many of your own cars have you ever driven spiritedly for over 100k miles might be a better question?

urbanscribe

If you don't track the car the ceramics can last a long time. With the lip that's a big item you need to get properly evaluated in the ppi. Pads less important that rotors. See if the sensors are cooked/melted (sign of tracking, ceramics can take the heat, sensors less so). The very few people who have problems with ceramics swap them for steels if that's a concern. Replace pads early.

Talk to sellers and understand each car's story. Bonus if they are rennlisters with a reputation to care about. These are solid cars so it's about knowing if something stupid was done.

urbanscribe

Two totally different cars. Both great. Can't go wrong. You'll know when you drive them.

928 GT R

It is a good question and FWIW, I have driven 2 of my cars spiritedly to over 200k and another to 300k...

Our 2016 Cayenne Turbo S is being driven spiritedly and has already hit 50,000 miles, we have every intention of driving it to 300k and will absolutely learn if the rotors last. My TT has only 15k on it and will not see 100k under my stewardship (but it will hopefully see some track time) - so your point is valid on that one.

Steve Theodore

That's quite impressive my friend! Carry on!