ChrisF

While I tend to agree with you, your response sounds more like Porsche marketing than an open discussion. By your logic, I should have stuck with MSCP's on my 997.2 GT3 since the MSCP2's weren't designed for it. :P

I've run many tires on GT cars, ranging from street (MPSS, Hankook RS3's, RE11's) to R comps (MSCP, MSCP2, Trofeo R's, NT01's) and they were all perfectly complimentary to the chassis when setup properly for their grip, wear characteristics. If tomorrow, Bridgestone made the RE71's for the RS, I'd immediately switch.

golfnutintib

^^^ agree with chris

the no/n1/n2 nonsense is just that, marketing nonsense

i have had zero problems with non-n rated tires on any of my porsches... ZERO PROBLEMS

but everyone shd go ahead and do what they need to do to sleep well at night... restful sleep more important than lighter wallet

Guest89

Forgot to include that caveat - tires that supersede the OE tire; I am eagerly awaiting the next MPSC evolution, and will upgrade when they are available.

PhilT3 (PT3)

Well said!!!

MaxLTV

I can think of two reasons - cold and rain.

MaxLTV

P Zeros are normally vastly inferior to MPSS. But the new 4th gen P Zeros (OEM on some '17 models) match or beat MPSS according to most reviews. No idea how to check which gen P Zeros are these, but I'd be willing to give the new gen a try.

PhilT3 (PT3)

Agreed. The way I see it is I'll never be able to take full advantage of the Cup2s abilities on the street. So if I can find a quality tire that performs within the limits of spirited street driving than I'm all for giving them a try.

However, when it comes to track I'm 100% Cup2's for the exact reason that Porsche and Michelin designed the Cup2's to wring maximum performance out of the GT3/RS. Though there will be a time when I will experiment with Hoosiers...and such.

Jangobipbip

In my opinion, MPSC 2 is a fantastic tyre. Compared to the old MPSC, it really sticks not too bad under the rain, and it lasts twice better.
I ran 8 trackdays this year principally on Spa and Nordschleife (these are very runny and fast track which do not attack tyres like a small "turnny" track) and it only will be time to change it.
I do not see a best road legal tyre than MPSC2 especially with GT3 RS sizes, today on the market.

One thing i realized too is that the MPSC 2 on my ex 991 GT3 got used a way faster than on the GT3 RS. I believe it is due to the sizes which are bigger and the grip difference between the two cars. The less the RS slides, the less the tyre get used.

We can conclude saying the RS saves the types better. We could call the RS the economic choice in fact lol

golfnutintib

i thought i had heard all the possible rationalizations to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on sports cars, but this one is BRILLIANT

seriously though, the added contact patch on the rs does give it substantially more grip than the non-rs gt3... i agree that this actually helps save the tires some as most drivers will slide less on track trying to extract the best possible laps

that being said, i would need to hear and read A LOT of positive reviews and experiences before I give P-Zeros another shot... they are batting 0 for 3 in my book over the last 10 years... maybe the new one is a new dog with new tricks but the old ones are/were an embarrassment as a 'premium sport tire'

Guest89

MPSC2 is really a very kind tire in cold and rainy conditions, especially when compared to the original MPSC.

I recently had mine out on a spirited backroad drive in below freezing weather with no issues; plan to do it again next week, regardless of weather.

MaxLTV

I daily drove my GT3 for 2 years, rain or shine. On colder wetter mornings (by Nor Cal standards) GT3 would break traction at lower speeds than my Cayenne on all-seasons. It was not undrivable or dangerous, at least in my hands, but the traction penalty from tires was big enough to make driving the car less fun. MPSCs have a very broad range.

CDinSing

I guess I have a different perspective. I go to track for fast fun, yes but I also go to understand how the car handles at the limit and how that limit feels to my butt and hands. If some one or thing makes a stupid move on the road near me I want to know how far I can push the car to avoid it or whether I am just along for the ride and need to speed dial my insurance company. In central Florida this can be a daily adventure. That is why I like a dual purpose car and resist buying a dedicated track car. Changing tires defeats that purpose for me. YMMV.

Carmen

Howaboutthat

Well, maybe .... I have a set of Super Sports on a rebuilt and modified 996 -- the rears (no tracking) are at 23,000+, and still have some life in them. P-Zeroes wore out at 11,500.