991.2 GT3 Manual
#1
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
991.2 GT3 Manual
After spending far too much time reading here, it appears that the majority of people who are interested in getting a 991.2 GT3 will purchase the car with a manual transmission. Since I read that the ratio of Manual:PDK is 1:2 (30% manual), doesn't it appear that there will be a huge issue of supply?
Stated in another way, if so many people want this GT3 to be in manual and PAG is to only produce 30% of the GT3 in manual, it appears there will be even larger allocation issues than the current GT3/GT3RS.
Also, will many of these people switch their order to a PDK if during the release there is much more demand for a manual and they could get a PDK immediately?
Stated in another way, if so many people want this GT3 to be in manual and PAG is to only produce 30% of the GT3 in manual, it appears there will be even larger allocation issues than the current GT3/GT3RS.
Also, will many of these people switch their order to a PDK if during the release there is much more demand for a manual and they could get a PDK immediately?
Last edited by mass27; 10-28-2016 at 08:14 PM.
#2
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Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
I think the Europeans favor the PDK-S to a large degree and a bunch of people in the US but not on Rennlist will want PDK-S (as well as a significant percentage of Rennlist folks).
#3
Porsche normally has a pretty good clue about demand. They will make sure to plan a bigger percentage of MT for the US market.
Demand -1 has always been the plan.
They pretty much nailed it with 991gt3/RS and gt4. Trickling out allocations until everyone is happy.
#4
Nordschleife Master
The limiting of manual transmissions production is also a rumor like with everything else. It might be true,don't get me wrong,but I'd like to see how will Porsche refuse a customer that has an allocation. Let's say your dealer receives an allocation and it's your turn in line,so he calls you up and says : " sir,you can only order your car with pdk ". That is a big change! It's not like when they were calling people to tell them the LWBs can't be ordered at that time. Having different seats than you wanted is one thing,having a totally different transmission is another!
#5
It will be easy to limit it if they want just like they limited PTS, LWFW, buckets, and deviated stitching. Early cars won't get manual or lwfw but may get pts. Later cars may get manual but may miss other things. You can't control your allocation date and if you don't lock at the right time you are sol. I missed buckets on my GT3 by two weeks and missed PTS on my RS by 3 or 4 weeks.
Be prepared to not get at least one of the options you really want.
Be prepared to not get at least one of the options you really want.
#7
Drifting
I think it's deceiving the number of people that want a manual here in the states. The last Renn poll showed 50/50 split roughly. There are about a dozen hard core believers around here that won't buy anything but a manual and continue to post as such. For me personally I have driven a manual sports car since I was 16! So it's not such a big deal. The attraction of an RS was far greater than the manual for me. I am still absolutely enjoying the punch and aggressive feel of PDK-S. Thoughts?
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#9
Three Wheelin'
I think it is possible Porsche could limit the manual. When I was buying 360 and 430 Ferraris the dealer would get an allocation and Ferrari would stipulate that the allocation was either a manual or F1. Ferrari was pushing the F1 for the revenue. It wasn't easy to get an allocation for a manual.
#10
Nordschleife Master
Originally Posted by Mr. Adair
I think it's deceiving the number of people that want a manual here in the states. The last Renn poll showed 50/50 split roughly. There are about a dozen hard core believers around here that won't buy anything but a manual and continue to post as such. For me personally I have driven a manual sports car since I was 16! So it's not such a big deal. The attraction of an RS was far greater than the manual for me. I am still absolutely enjoying the punch and aggressive feel of PDK-S. Thoughts?
#11
Rennlist Member
IMO those car are so powerful that street-driving is way more enjoyable with a manual. With PDK, you tend to want to drive faster. Of course on a track, that's a whole different story...
#12
Honestly it depends what street driving we are all referring to. When I drive my GT4 in downtown slow crawl traffic I want to give it back. When I am on some nice open spots north of the city or even on the decent speed freeways then I am smiling
#13
Drifting
#14
Nordschleife Master
The limiting of manual transmissions production is also a rumor like with everything else. It might be true,don't get me wrong,but I'd like to see how will Porsche refuse a customer that has an allocation. Let's say your dealer receives an allocation and it's your turn in line,so he calls you up and says : " sir,you can only order your car with pdk ". That is a big change! It's not like when they were calling people to tell them the LWBs can't be ordered at that time. Having different seats than you wanted is one thing,having a totally different transmission is another!
#15
Instructor
After many manual 911's starting with a 4 speed turbo (oh how I wanted to install a Ruf 5 speed transmission), I find the PDK lots of fun. Amazing how intuitive it is. This PDK is a true Porsche Motorsport race part and has an amazing history and how it evolved.
I also understand those that want to me slightly more involved, much like a manual wind wristwatch that needs you. Like mentioned above whichever makes you happier, smile more.
One thing I feel is fairly certain, the manuals wont' be around much longer.
I also understand those that want to me slightly more involved, much like a manual wind wristwatch that needs you. Like mentioned above whichever makes you happier, smile more.
One thing I feel is fairly certain, the manuals wont' be around much longer.