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Old 06-13-2016 | 01:37 PM
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Yes, of course if the R was 70-100 kg lighter than an RS opinions would change because then it would be a superior car.
I think the R is already 50kg lighter than the RS, according to Porsche. Not very hard to lose 20kg more...

I think Robert meant an R that weighs 70-100kg less than stock (which is 120-150kg less than RS)...
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Originally Posted by GrantG
I think the R is already 50kg lighter than the RS, according to Porsche. Not very hard to lose 20kg more...

I think Robert meant an R that weighs 70-100kg less than stock (which is 120-150kg less than RS)...
Is the R 50 kg lighter than an RS when specced the same? Or does Porsche quote the weight of the R without A/C and radio while quoting the RS with those items?
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I think the R is already 50kg lighter than the RS, according to Porsche. Not very hard to lose 20kg more...

I think Robert meant an R that weighs 70-100kg less than stock (which is 120-150kg less than RS)...
Which RS with the same kit brings back R 60! kg lighter

remove AC Radio and put PCCB on RS and difference
is barely 30kg ...
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Originally Posted by uvRS
Is the R 50 kg lighter than an RS when specced the same? Or does Porsche quote the weight of the R without A/C and radio while quoting the RS with those items?
I think Porsche compares both cars in their lightest optioned configurations (PCCB, AC/Radio delete, lightweight battery, etc.), but I can't swear to it...
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To clarify, Kit 1 is meant to take 60+ kg (approximately 132 lbs) off the R's weight. This, I believe, would make it approximately 110+ kg (appreoximately 242 lbs) lighter than the RS. In turn, Kit 2 would take another 60 kg off the R.

Of course, some of the parts in the Kits would be applicable to GT3 and GT3RS. And, in fact, the first parts, new axles and CV's are applicable to GT3, GT3RS and R.

BTW, re the RS and the R, one is not superior to the other, each is different from the other and each is superb in its own right.

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This review gets at what makes this car special... Porsche really has this dialed-in.

http://www.motoring.com.au/porsche-9...review-102743/

The other trick to it is that you don’t have to be driving it flat out to become irredeemably immersed and invested in the evident glee the mechanical feel at simply moving.

It’s a glorious return to back-to-basics driving with technology that is anything but basic.

It transcends fast driving and it transcends fast cars. It elevates driving from something you do for either speed or transport and it becomes something you do for the soul and for the spirit.

And, driving it quickly or gently, it all feels like it’s every bit as good for the 911 R as it is for you.
Fortunately I could write the same thing about my 964...
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Perhaps my gut feeling may be right.
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Thanks, I enjoyed reading that! I can't help get the feeling that the R is another runaway success for Porsche and for those fortunate drivers who will experience it. It might take a bit more to unseat the 4.0 from its pinnacle, though, it seems. Still, rarified company to share accolades with. Bravo to AP, FSW and their team for a remarkable accomplishment!
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The reviews give me the impression that the 911R is a great car, and maybe the most enjoyable new 911 you can buy for the road right now. I'm encouraged that Porsche can accomplish that largely with retuning. Now they need to figure out how to bring the price down and increase production for this genre of 911. I'd love to see a back to back comparison of the 911R and the 991.2 base Carrera.

The Evo review also reinforces my impression that there are pleasures to be found in previous generations of 911 which won't be found in any current or future 911s, because of the former's shorter wheelbases, narrower tracks, different torque curves, hydraulic steering, less overall refinement, etc.
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http://www.motortrend.com/news/2016-...-r-revelation/
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Excellent review from Evo, best car mag on the planet.

Originally Posted by Manifold
The reviews give me the impression that the 911R is a great car, and maybe the most enjoyable new 911 you can buy for the road right now.
Same impression I got, hence my scoffing at the ridiculous claims from those who have never even driven one.


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