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991.2 GT3 - Who is getting a manual? Who is getting a PDK?

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Old 05-03-2016, 03:22 PM
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Turbo, PDK, Manual, NA - whatever, I'm just happy that it'll be powered by gasoline!
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Originally Posted by Serge944
Turbo, PDK, Manual, NA - whatever, I'm just happy that it'll be powered by gasoline!
Something to think about. ^^^

I have no problem with turbo/PDK as long as it drives and sound the way I like. If I feel like MT/NA I can always buy older GT cars.
Old 05-03-2016, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Waxer
Well if this info is coming from PNA thats pretty convincing. We know the 991.2 is tt. Not much of a step to use the 991.2 tt motor for the new GT3.

I'm just happy and lucky to have a 991.1 GT3RS.
I am sorry, but this info is bollocks. As I has reported before, dealers in Europe already have production schedules and basic specs of the car. Indeed, since the dealers were notified, I have had no less than 3 dealers, who I have done business with in the past, all approach me with the same information. Next GT3 is 4.0 litres with PDK plus option of Manual. Price 150K euro. Production begins June 2017.

Gee whiz, how many times have the test mules even been photographed lately too. It's happening.
Old 05-03-2016, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris3963
I am sorry, but this info is bollocks. As I has reported before, dealers in Europe already have production schedules and basic specs of the car. Indeed, since the dealers were notified, I have had no less than 3 dealers, who I have done business with in the past, all approach me with the same information. Next GT3 is 4.0 litres with PDK plus option of Manual. Price 150K euro. Production begins June 2017. Gee whiz, how many times have the test mules even been photographed lately too. It's happening.
Don't worry about it. There are quite a few that really wants the 991.1gt3/RS to be the last NA.
Same goes for the 997rs. Some are worried about it not being the last MT.
Spoils a lot of the fun thinking about future value. The only thing we know is that the GT models will never be as bad as a regular $100-200k when it comes to depreciation.
Old 05-03-2016, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Drifting
Keawn (two total posts) = Troll
Originally Posted by 997rs4.0
Don't worry about it. There are quite a few that really wants the 991.1gt3/RS to be the last NA.
Same goes for the 997rs. Some are worried about it not being the last MT.
Spoils a lot of the fun thinking about future value. The only thing we know is that the GT models will never be as bad as a regular $100-200k when it comes to depreciation.
+1

991.2 GT3 manual option NA
991.2 RS maybe the 3RS gets shipped and its a 991.2 GT2RS. PDK only. Jjeeaaajj, Apple Nav whatever.
Maybe a last LE manual GT3RS??

Looking forward to carbon tub 992's with 918 Hybrid tech.
Guess that means AWD..
Old 05-03-2016, 09:33 PM
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Well what we do know from this survey is that out of all those responding the field is split pretty evenly as to MT and PDK.
Old 05-03-2016, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris3963
I am sorry, but this info is bollocks. As I has reported before, dealers in Europe already have production schedules and basic specs of the car. Indeed, since the dealers were notified, I have had no less than 3 dealers, who I have done business with in the past, all approach me with the same information. Next GT3 is 4.0 litres with PDK plus option of Manual. Price 150K euro. Production begins June 2017.

Gee whiz, how many times have the test mules even been photographed lately too. It's happening.
I feel your frustration as all it takes is 1-2 people posting patently inaccurate information.. And the incorrect rumor gains traction again. I had tried a few months ago to create a self-policed rating system for rumors which many used for awhile with some success, but the nature of forums, egos, and rumors.. Makes self policing of information a non-starter.

For the reasons you mention above, plus those of us who actually have attendible information, we know that the 991.2 GT3 is a 4.0 NA engine. However, I think at this point it just makes sense to sit back and watch the unfolding of the weird logic twists which people employ to try to back up what they think is good information. Recently, I think it was on P9, when a 991.2 gt3 mule pic was spotted, We saw someone tried to explain away the lack of lower rear bumper vents required by turbos on 911 and present on every turbo model ever.. Not to mention that the sound in the video was clearly of an NA car... I'll try to find the link it was hilarious explanations.

Just have fun with the silliness, I know and admit I've been guilty of having taken it too seriously in past.
Old 05-04-2016, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by CAlexio
I feel your frustration as all it takes is 1-2 people posting patently inaccurate information.. And the incorrect rumor gains traction again. I had tried a few months ago to create a self-policed rating system for rumors which many used for awhile with some success, but the nature of forums, egos, and rumors.. Makes self policing of information a non-starter.

For the reasons you mention above, plus those of us who actually have attendible information, we know that the 991.2 GT3 is a 4.0 NA engine. However, I think at this point it just makes sense to sit back and watch the unfolding of the weird logic twists which people employ to try to back up what they think is good information. Recently, I think it was on P9, when a 991.2 gt3 mule pic was spotted, We saw someone tried to explain away the lack of lower rear bumper vents required by turbos on 911 and present on every turbo model ever.. Not to mention that the sound in the video was clearly of an NA car... I'll try to find the link it was hilarious explanations.

Just have fun with the silliness, I know and admit I've been guilty of having taken it too seriously in past.
Thanks for the post. How good is your information on the 991.2 gt3rs? I know things are pretty firm on the gt3, but I'm sceptical that Porsche would go even bigger in displacement for just one GT iteration; that is assuming no more N/A after 991.2, of course.
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Originally Posted by Jpacione
Thanks for the post. How good is your information on the 991.2 gt3rs? I know things are pretty firm on the gt3, but I'm sceptical that Porsche would go even bigger in displacement for just one GT iteration; that is assuming no more N/A after 991.2, of course.
I don't know for sure on the RS.. so I didn't post it.
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Originally Posted by Jpacione
I'm sceptical that Porsche would go even bigger in displacement for just one GT iteration;
997 RS 4.0 was a motor only built for 600 units (current 991 RS 4.0L is totally different).
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Originally Posted by GrantG
997 RS 4.0 was a motor only built for 600 units (current 991 RS 4.0L is totally different).
Exactly.

We are talking the same 4.0L engine for all the 991.1 RS, same 4.0L engine for all the 911R, and then simply continuing the same 4.0L engine for the 991.2 GT3

(And we know the 4.0L engine already was placed in a GT3 chassis and 90% GT3 body to create the 911R)

several thousand units, so a different situation for this 4.0L engine.

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Old 05-04-2016, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
997 RS 4.0 was a motor only built for 600 units (current 991 RS 4.0L is totally different).
Very good point. I'd love it if they did build a 4.2 for the next one. The reason for my comment is just all of the pressure for turbos and the general move to smaller displacement across the board for Porsche, with exception of the turbo line, which stayed with the original engine. Add to that the fact that the next mule looks turbo (gt2), and the fact that AP said we would see the GT2 around 2018 for the end of the 991 series...

Just guesswork on my part, but the timeline seems crowded. If they do it, I smell another unobtainable LE.

Anyway, that's why I asked calexio the question. He may have some info, whereas I do not.

It will be fun to watch it all play out!
Old 05-04-2016, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Jpacione
Very good point. I'd love it if they did build a 4.2 for the next one. The reason for my comment is just all of the pressure for turbos and the general move to smaller displacement across the board for Porsche, with exception of the turbo line, which stayed with the original engine. Add to that the fact that the next mule looks turbo (gt2), and the fact that AP said we would see the GT2 around 2018 for the end of the 991 series... Just guesswork on my part, but the timeline seems crowded. If they do it, I smell another unobtainable LE. Anyway, that's why I asked calexio the question. He may have some info, whereas I do not. It will be fun to watch it all play out!
I doubt anyone except the inner circle knows about 991.2rs or rumored limited editions. The rumored RS "cup edition" that I and a few others heard about last summer was most likely the R.

I think those of us that are still waiting will have to focus on gt2/RS and 991.2gt3! Personally really excited about the gt2/RS.

I also believe Porsche will keep producing the gt4! Will be interesting to see what engine and transmission?

Because of the gt4 the cayman became a cool car even outside the hardcore enthusiasts.
And for those of us that don't want to go into Ferrari cost track cars the cayman is a great option.
Old 05-07-2016, 04:23 PM
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PDK gets my vote for a couple of reasons, first it's my daily driver and second I love the sound of the rattling gear box... you would think it was a manual. My 997.2 GT3's manual was very stiff and made it very tiring to drive in traffic. Another thing when stopped and the ground is level, you can take your foot off the brake without worries about it rolling... acts just like a manual. At the track it is absolutely fun to drive, I love it when it hits about 8800 RPMS and just throws you back into your seat when it shifts... just awesome.
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Originally Posted by bruce987
PDK gets my vote for a couple of reasons, first it's my daily driver and second I love the sound of the rattling gear box... you would think it was a manual. My 997.2 GT3's manual was very stiff and made it very tiring to drive in traffic. Another thing when stopped and the ground is level, you can take your foot off the brake without worries about it rolling... acts just like a manual. At the track it is absolutely fun to drive, I love it when it hits about 8800 RPMS and just throws you back into your seat when it shifts... just awesome.
Unless they keep the single mass flywheel as a differentiating/premium factor for the 911R, which I doubt... Then the manual in the 991.2 should hopefully rattle also. It will be after all the "enthusiast" choice, an R without the carbon and magnesium body parts. (this is just fun speculation on my part)


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