991 GT2RS
#6452
mclaren really made a great job on that 720, don’t forget that this is not the track/extrem version like gt2 rs, 488 pista, performante etc...
iam sure that the track version of this one will be faster than the gt2rs...
#6454
Sorry, that's not right. 7deg is easily warm enough to get roadtyres to full temp, and the engine will work better, as Seb says.
the water injection (while it lasts) just keeps engine within tolerance at the high end. It doesn't keep it at an optimal lower temp.
the water injection (while it lasts) just keeps engine within tolerance at the high end. It doesn't keep it at an optimal lower temp.
#6455
7C is the minimum temperature for regular street tires, lower than that you should use winter tires or all weather.
Maybe 7C will work still ok for Cup2 but for sure not optimal, I am sure they were designed for at least 20C ambient temps, take a look at slicks temp rating, works the same... a tire can not work optimal at 20C ambient AND 7C ambient.
Now, regarding water injection: IAT is killing power after some time, and water keeps IATs down all the time, on top gives more knock resistance just in case anything wrong can happen, water makes the GT2RS to run almost the same even if 25C ambient or 7C ambient, so the difference btw 7C and 15C is irrelevant to me when running WMI or just WI
Maybe 7C will work still ok for Cup2 but for sure not optimal, I am sure they were designed for at least 20C ambient temps, take a look at slicks temp rating, works the same... a tire can not work optimal at 20C ambient AND 7C ambient.
Now, regarding water injection: IAT is killing power after some time, and water keeps IATs down all the time, on top gives more knock resistance just in case anything wrong can happen, water makes the GT2RS to run almost the same even if 25C ambient or 7C ambient, so the difference btw 7C and 15C is irrelevant to me when running WMI or just WI
#6456
Showing this as a "comparison" test is pretty disingenuous they should be tested on the same day same conditions. I find it hard to believe that the GT2RS is so much worse in the braking tests, yes it's 75kg heavier but it has much wider front tyres and these Porsche brakes are the best around, I suspect the tyres weren't warm enough for the braking tests but I have to agree that with a 1.55G lateral acceleration they seemed to be performing on the lap tests and of course in 7 deg C the engine will be running optimally.
#6457
Showing this as a "comparison" test is pretty disingenuous they should be tested on the same day same conditions. I find it hard to believe that the GT2RS is so much worse in the braking tests, yes it's 75kg heavier but it has much wider front tyres and these Porsche brakes are the best around, I suspect the tyres weren't warm enough for the braking tests but I have to agree that with a 1.55G lateral acceleration they seemed to be performing on the lap tests and of course in 7 deg C the engine will be running optimally.
#6458
I'm interested why you say that, how do you find the Mclaren's better ?
I much prefer the feel of the Porsche's, I'm not talking about ultimate stopping ability as for that they both seem as good as each other but the way the Mclaren's need constant pressure otherwise they creep forward is a little disconcerting I feel I will probably creep into someones rear end at some point !
#6459
Showing this as a "comparison" test is pretty disingenuous they should be tested on the same day same conditions. I find it hard to believe that the GT2RS is so much worse in the braking tests, yes it's 75kg heavier but it has much wider front tyres and these Porsche brakes are the best around, I suspect the tyres weren't warm enough for the braking tests but I have to agree that with a 1.55G lateral acceleration they seemed to be performing on the lap tests and of course in 7 deg C the engine will be running optimally.
1.55g is a lot of lateral acceleration for any semislick including cup2s, but remember Nring is a "3D" track with a lot of on-camber turns that will help and sustain higher Gs, nevertheless I do agree that tire seems to perform very well even @7C, I wonder now if they can reach even higher Gs in warmer weather
#6460
Now, regarding water injection: IAT is killing power after some time, and water keeps IATs down all the time, on top gives more knock resistance just in case anything wrong can happen, water makes the GT2RS to run almost the same even if 25C ambient or 7C ambient, so the difference btw 7C and 15C is irrelevant to me when running WMI or just WI
What you go on to describe may be accurate for water/meth injection but the GT2RS uses a water sprayer/mister squirting a spray over the front of the intercooler core, for sure it will help reduce the IATs and as Preuninger said in worked even better in practice than their modelled expectations but it is still nothing like as effective as injecting into the intake, so the difference between 15 and 7C can be very important if the engine is already near its thermal IAT limits in producing its 700PS
#6461
you would probably be the only person to do so tbh. The Porsche brakes get a bad reputation for longevity but on the 991 gen, they are going to last much longer than the Mclaren ceramics. I think the main standout from the data is that the new corsa is a pretty decent tyre as on the face of it, the 100-0 braking suggests it's at the least competitive with the N2 Cup2. The old MC corsa on the 12c/650'was just a horrible one so it's good to know Pirelli have (finally) got a decent tyre out.
#6465
Interesting!!!!!
The cars giving passing signals are indicating the direction THEY will remain when being passed, which is OPPOSITE to the Directions
being given to us at HPDE's here - which request we indicate the direction we want the car to pass us on. This is NOT intuitive!!!
The German system shown seems to me to make a lot more sense since it is far more intuitive indicating the direction in which the
car being passed will go - as the driver is used to doing in normal road driving.
The cars giving passing signals are indicating the direction THEY will remain when being passed, which is OPPOSITE to the Directions
being given to us at HPDE's here - which request we indicate the direction we want the car to pass us on. This is NOT intuitive!!!
The German system shown seems to me to make a lot more sense since it is far more intuitive indicating the direction in which the
car being passed will go - as the driver is used to doing in normal road driving.