Is regular GT3 better than RS?
03-09-2016, 03:45 AM
#17
The RS will make for a much better collector's museum piece than the Gt3. It looks sharper and much more aggressive (race car like).
For those that have the courage to take the RS out on track (given its precious $$$ value) the above average and highly skilled drivers will be able to extract more from the RS vs GT3.
But these cars are always wants, not needs. No need to justify them in this way. If you can afford an RS and have an allocation and "want" it, by all means knock yourself out.
For those that have the courage to take the RS out on track (given its precious $$$ value) the above average and highly skilled drivers will be able to extract more from the RS vs GT3.
But these cars are always wants, not needs. No need to justify them in this way. If you can afford an RS and have an allocation and "want" it, by all means knock yourself out.
03-09-2016, 03:45 AM
#18
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2 issues driven me to reject an RS allocation at MSRP (January 2015) in favour of a MSRP GT3
1 All the premium troubles are mainly
due to the objective to weight less by force
than a GT3 which is reasonable
BUT rather than using a lighter body
here s the
1st mistake
(maybe to push a later turbo transition)
they ve choosen an heavier turbo body !
and because they (the RS) have to weight less
this have translated into let s do something
for marketing
aka 10kg only less than gt3 kilos
which doesn t make any
difference at an huge cost
what a big deal!
they (the 10kg) are the most expensive premium on market
just look 675LT that s a serious 100 ! kilos less than 650S
and all worth the money
2nd mistake
to get performance gain despite heavier! body
they had to increase tyres patch and size (rear)
here s the 2nd mistake
a rear wheels variable steering with 21 20 setup
goes crazy with its wrong setup for a real track
on track you have too many turns charateristics
to fix at Porsche factory the right 21 20 setup good for all circuits
that s why all the Motortrend and Pano (and others magazines abroad) complains
i think Randy is one of the few honest and most capable drivers
in compare for example to british mega mega yes yes only
marketing jurnos
Lesson learnt
Wait Randy review before buying a sport car
Hopes for future
More honest and capable and indipendent Jurnos
and less megamega "i have to pay my house" ones
1 All the premium troubles are mainly
due to the objective to weight less by force
than a GT3 which is reasonable
BUT rather than using a lighter body
here s the
1st mistake
(maybe to push a later turbo transition)
they ve choosen an heavier turbo body !
and because they (the RS) have to weight less
this have translated into let s do something
for marketing
aka 10kg only less than gt3 kilos
which doesn t make any
difference at an huge cost
what a big deal!
they (the 10kg) are the most expensive premium on market
just look 675LT that s a serious 100 ! kilos less than 650S
and all worth the money
2nd mistake
to get performance gain despite heavier! body
they had to increase tyres patch and size (rear)
here s the 2nd mistake
a rear wheels variable steering with 21 20 setup
goes crazy with its wrong setup for a real track
on track you have too many turns charateristics
to fix at Porsche factory the right 21 20 setup good for all circuits
that s why all the Motortrend and Pano (and others magazines abroad) complains
i think Randy is one of the few honest and most capable drivers
in compare for example to british mega mega yes yes only
marketing jurnos
Lesson learnt
Wait Randy review before buying a sport car
Hopes for future
More honest and capable and indipendent Jurnos
and less megamega "i have to pay my house" ones
Last edited by fxz; 03-09-2016 at 04:09 AM.
03-09-2016, 07:15 AM
#19
Burning Brakes
I was fortunate to see a GT3 RS on the road, and they are very special. But since I cannot afford one, I never really gave it a second thought. To me, I barely scratch the surface of the GT3. The RS would just be way beyond my pay grade, as is the GT3. Is the GT3 RS a more capable track car? I believe it is. Is it more special. After seeing it in person, I think it is. But since I will never run out of car with the GT3, and the cost is...prohibitive...I can't see myself ever buying one.
But absolutely they are very special.
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But absolutely they are very special.
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03-09-2016, 07:54 AM
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I wholeheartedly agree! The journalists do not drive them back to back on a daily basis and truly get to understand the cars and their differences, or really even push them to their true limits to make a valid assessment.
03-09-2016, 09:12 AM
#21
Nordschleife Master
The gt3 is better for the ones that cant afford the RS. The RS is better for the ones who purchased a RS. Different strokes for different folks. Very subjective. The only thing I really don't like on the RS is the big rear wing.
03-09-2016, 10:03 AM
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The original question was which one is better. I too, own both cars and purchasability has nothing to do with my objective opinion, thus why agree with Superman32.
Btw...the big rear wing is there for functional reasons, not there solely for aesthetics - form follows function.
03-09-2016, 10:06 AM
#23
Drifting
The best one for you, is the car you can afford and will enjoy the most.
Lay a little rubber down and all will be well,
Lay a little rubber down and all will be well,
03-09-2016, 11:27 AM
#24
Just my opinion: I also have had both. So far the RS is dynamically better even puttering around at track less than 5k rpm while breaking in. More stable, deeper under braking, down force plants the car in high speed sections, turn in with no push - much better. Engine, not sure yet so far kinda a wash until I can fully rev it out. All that said the SBlue GT3 was my all time favorite car but the RS feels better on track.
03-09-2016, 11:40 AM
#25
03-09-2016, 11:41 AM
#26
Porsche really nailed it with the 991gt3/RS. Perfect combo of DD and track *****.
TRAKCAR is using his car exactly the way AP market it.
The problem is that quite a few owners are using these cars a weekend fun cars on the street. 996/997gt/RS are better suited for weekend fun rides and track abuse. But gives up a lot in the DD compartment.
Very hard to make a car that is great at everything.
Will be interesting to see how the R performs on the road. I'm still not sure if it will be better than a 997gt3/RS?
TRAKCAR is using his car exactly the way AP market it.
The problem is that quite a few owners are using these cars a weekend fun cars on the street. 996/997gt/RS are better suited for weekend fun rides and track abuse. But gives up a lot in the DD compartment.
Very hard to make a car that is great at everything.
Will be interesting to see how the R performs on the road. I'm still not sure if it will be better than a 997gt3/RS?
03-09-2016, 12:24 PM
#28
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Bigger engine, much better aero, better contact patch F/R, and wider track. Oh, and it just looks bad ***. If you ignore the first four facts, and discount the fact that it looks bad ***, the GT3 is better.
03-09-2016, 12:49 PM
#30
So why can't Randy Pobst drive the RS without spinning it?
Footnote: My intentions are NOT to discredit the RS in any way. I've got an order in for one! But I do want to understand, better, why a pro driver like Pobst says it's such a handful, and why I'm reading same in Panamera.
Footnote: My intentions are NOT to discredit the RS in any way. I've got an order in for one! But I do want to understand, better, why a pro driver like Pobst says it's such a handful, and why I'm reading same in Panamera.