991 GT3 vs RS acceleration
#1
991 GT3 vs RS acceleration
http://youtu.be/xqtOfD-67iE
Small analysis of the video:
The big gap is taken by the GT3 in the first second, and it leads by ~14km/h..
Still in first gear, gap gets bigger to ~20km/h
By the end of 3rd gear, the gap is closing.. Down to ~12km/h
Gap: ~~9km/h
By the end of 5th, gap stays the same, all the way till the end of the video..
My unprofessional view on this:
When launching the RS @6500rpm, the extra torque in that range is causing the wheels to spin excessively. I recall reading somewhere in the forums that the RS gave better acceleration figures when launched at lower rpm, but can't recall where..
At higher speeds, despite having more downforce, the extra 25-30hp is somehow capable of closing the gap between 120-200km/h, and then maintaining it till top speed where the GT3 will eventually lead after 250km/h where downforce becomes way more considerable.
It would be interesting to see a rolling race, hopefully i'll try with Shahano when i take delivery soon!
Small analysis of the video:
The big gap is taken by the GT3 in the first second, and it leads by ~14km/h..
Still in first gear, gap gets bigger to ~20km/h
By the end of 3rd gear, the gap is closing.. Down to ~12km/h
Gap: ~~9km/h
By the end of 5th, gap stays the same, all the way till the end of the video..
My unprofessional view on this:
When launching the RS @6500rpm, the extra torque in that range is causing the wheels to spin excessively. I recall reading somewhere in the forums that the RS gave better acceleration figures when launched at lower rpm, but can't recall where..
At higher speeds, despite having more downforce, the extra 25-30hp is somehow capable of closing the gap between 120-200km/h, and then maintaining it till top speed where the GT3 will eventually lead after 250km/h where downforce becomes way more considerable.
It would be interesting to see a rolling race, hopefully i'll try with Shahano when i take delivery soon!
#3
I think this is a totally misleading comparison. The RS has traction control off and the GT3 looks to have it on. On the first screen grab both cars are in first gear at 7200 rpm but look at the speed difference. I don't think there is that much difference in gearing so I think the wheels on the RS are spinning. Different days, locations, surface conditions, etc.
#4
I think this is a totally misleading comparison. The RS has traction control off and the GT3 looks to have it on. On the first screen grab both cars are in first gear at 7200 rpm but look at the speed difference. I don't think there is that much difference in gearing so I think the wheels on the RS are spinning. Different days, locations, surface conditions, etc.
#5
Rennlist Member
I find these kinds of comparison only good for entertainment value. There are so many variables that aren't accounted for. One of them may be doing downhill, for all we know!
I don't expect the RS to be faster in a straight line at any speed. Not only do you have more drag, but you are also moving a larger section of air with the RS' increased dimensions. I don't expect it would be enough for 25hp to overcome.
I don't expect the RS to be faster in a straight line at any speed. Not only do you have more drag, but you are also moving a larger section of air with the RS' increased dimensions. I don't expect it would be enough for 25hp to overcome.
#6
I find these kinds of comparison only good for entertainment value. There are so many variables that aren't accounted for. One of them may be doing downhill, for all we know! I don't expect the RS to be faster in a straight line at any speed. Not only do you have more drag, but you are also moving a larger section of air with the RS' increased dimensions. I don't expect it would be enough for 25hp to overcome.
RS might be a little slower at higher speed due to more drag
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#8
Considering slip is an issue for the RS, i have done several timings for the two cars after the launch and here is a brief result: GT3 RS 100 200 7.65 7.51 7.18 7.53 7.48 7.5 7.436666667 7.513333333 100 250 14.71 15.86 14.71 15.41 14.85 15.56 14.75666667 15.61 GT3 RS 100-200 7.53" 7.51" 100-250 14.76" 15.61"
#9
Instructor
Considering slip is an issue for the RS, i have done several timings for the two cars after the launch and here is a brief result (numbers used for comparison and not as ultimate values):
100-200km/hr
GT3: 7.65/7.18/7.48 - Average 7.43
RS: 7.51/7.53/7.5 - Average 7.51
100-250km/hr
GT3: 14.71/14.71/14.85 - Average 14.75
RS: 15.86/15.41/15.56 - Average 15.61
Face the fact: the GT3 is a faster straight-line car!
Karim, i advise you not to race with Shahano on a straight!
100-200km/hr
GT3: 7.65/7.18/7.48 - Average 7.43
RS: 7.51/7.53/7.5 - Average 7.51
100-250km/hr
GT3: 14.71/14.71/14.85 - Average 14.75
RS: 15.86/15.41/15.56 - Average 15.61
Face the fact: the GT3 is a faster straight-line car!
Karim, i advise you not to race with Shahano on a straight!
#10
Considering slip is an issue for the RS, i have done several timings for the two cars after the launch and here is a brief result (numbers used for comparison and not as ultimate values):
100-200km/hr
GT3: 7.65/7.18/7.48 - Average 7.43
RS: 7.51/7.53/7.5 - Average 7.51
100-250km/hr
GT3: 14.71/14.71/14.85 - Average 14.75
RS: 15.86/15.41/15.56 - Average 15.61
Face the fact: the GT3 is a faster straight-line car!
Karim, i advise you not to race with Shahano on a straight!
100-200km/hr
GT3: 7.65/7.18/7.48 - Average 7.43
RS: 7.51/7.53/7.5 - Average 7.51
100-250km/hr
GT3: 14.71/14.71/14.85 - Average 14.75
RS: 15.86/15.41/15.56 - Average 15.61
Face the fact: the GT3 is a faster straight-line car!
Karim, i advise you not to race with Shahano on a straight!
9000rpms, speed and class...
well, predictable, GT3 is the bargain of the century
#11
Three Wheelin'
I think this is a totally misleading comparison. The RS has traction control off and the GT3 looks to have it on. On the first screen grab both cars are in first gear at 7200 rpm but look at the speed difference. I don't think there is that much difference in gearing so I think the wheels on the RS are spinning. Different days, locations, surface conditions, etc.
#13
I had no trouble slipping wheels in the GT3 with the rubber warmed up. This wasn't using launch control by just my own throttle application from a standing start. Hard to tell if it will be easier or not in the RS as you have the larger contact patch.
To me things like Launch Control, PDK-S, PVT+ are all just different different software configs between cars. I wouldn't be surprised if the GT3 runs more intrusive PVT+ vs the RS. There is no way to switch it off...
To me things like Launch Control, PDK-S, PVT+ are all just different different software configs between cars. I wouldn't be surprised if the GT3 runs more intrusive PVT+ vs the RS. There is no way to switch it off...
#14
Rennlist Member
These kind of instrument only acceleration comparisons that are tending to appear everywhere are simply a waste of time even looking at. They are usually takes from completely different runs on different surfaces on different days, etc. Why do you think you never actually see the cars, only the instruments? Even debating them gives them credence they don't deserve.
#15
Rennlist Member
GT3 faster in straight line. Maybe the same.
RS much faster in and out of corner, specially when not at ideal RPM out of a corner.
RS torque allows a gear up to balance the car.
Just like 3.8 VS 4.0RS but a few hundred RPM can be critical in racing..
This is now negated by PDK because in one second you can up and down shift if you may run out of gear.
RS much faster in and out of corner, specially when not at ideal RPM out of a corner.
RS torque allows a gear up to balance the car.
Just like 3.8 VS 4.0RS but a few hundred RPM can be critical in racing..
This is now negated by PDK because in one second you can up and down shift if you may run out of gear.