Notices
991 GT3, GT3RS, GT2RS and 911R 2012-2019
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

OT: 570S reviews are in

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-25-2015 | 03:47 PM
  #46  
FLAT6KING's Avatar
FLAT6KING
Instructor
 
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 116
Likes: 2
Default

It seems like McLaren's current product plan is this:

1. Use 2 types of Monocells: Type 1 for super series. Type 2 for sport series and lesser cars.

2. Seems that they have one motor with varied power levels. I'm not sure they will ever offer a NA engine.

3. Manual tranny and McLaren is not going to fly.

4. The swing up doors will stay with all models.

5. Can a low priced McLaren be too exotic for everyday? "No overtime this holiday season Charlie"...then swing open the door to your 570S and drive off. Uh...not going to work here either.
Old 10-25-2015 | 07:32 PM
  #47  
C.J. Ichiban's Avatar
C.J. Ichiban
Platinum Dealership
Rennlist
Site Sponsor

 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 9,871
Likes: 2,490
From: Exit Row seats
Default

Originally Posted by FLAT6KING
It seems like McLaren's current product plan is this:

1. Use 2 types of Monocells: Type 1 for super series. Type 2 for sport series and lesser cars.

2. Seems that they have one motor with varied power levels. I'm not sure they will ever offer a NA engine.

3. Manual tranny and McLaren is not going to fly.

4. The swing up doors will stay with all models.

5. Can a low priced McLaren be too exotic for everyday? "No overtime this holiday season Charlie"...then swing open the door to your 570S and drive off. Uh...not going to work here either.

I agree that they will not do manual transmission. this is a formula 1 technology company and will not go that far back to the past in this regard. they are all about pushing the envelope.
Old 02-24-2016 | 10:32 AM
  #48  
TRAKCAR's Avatar
TRAKCAR
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 29,449
Likes: 1,692
From: S. Florida
Default

Finally A car I would pick over a Porsche 991 TTS:
http://www.autoblog.com/2016/02/24/m...neva-official/
Old 02-24-2016 | 10:38 AM
  #49  
Apolo1's Avatar
Apolo1
Pro
 
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 647
Likes: 411
Default

Have a drive in Turbo S gen 2, as fast as a P1 round some tracks......
Old 02-24-2016 | 11:28 AM
  #50  
-eztrader-'s Avatar
-eztrader-
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,943
Likes: 252
Default

Is a shame Maclaren doesn't offer a NA engine. I think the cars look nice, and steering feels great. At this point I refuse to buy turbo.
Old 02-24-2016 | 11:30 AM
  #51  
TRAKCAR's Avatar
TRAKCAR
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 29,449
Likes: 1,692
From: S. Florida
Default

I was on the same page but at this points I would like to see what a GT2RS PDKS would be like.
But then I like V8 Turbo's better than flat six turbo's... The 570GTseems like a wash and wear McLaren. If they could only get rid of the goofy doors..
Old 02-24-2016 | 12:09 PM
  #52  
fastmd's Avatar
fastmd
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,247
Likes: 281
From: In the garage
Default

Originally Posted by Apolo1
Have a drive in Turbo S gen 2, as fast as a P1 round some tracks......
Real track or video game? Do you have any links, would love to see that.
Old 02-24-2016 | 02:25 PM
  #53  
Jooyoung99's Avatar
Jooyoung99
Racer
 
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 293
Likes: 1
From: OC CA
Default

^lol

I test drove a 570S last month. Electronics and interior design are significant improvements over the 650S and 12C. I think the acceleration is on par with the 12C. The car I saw had a sticker of $215K. I think it might be too expensive, considering there are lot of clean and low miles 650S selling for $220K (may even lower). Also, the leasing sucks. They finally have a closed end lease, but the money factors and residuals are horrible. I compared it against Huracan. Huracan with price of $280K - 20K dealer discount had a similar lease payment compared to 570S.

Name:  20160124_124644_zpscjgejh2q.jpg
Views: 87
Size:  580.2 KB

Last edited by Jooyoung99; 02-24-2016 at 02:45 PM.
Old 02-24-2016 | 02:58 PM
  #54  
Serge944's Avatar
Serge944
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 8,022
Likes: 56
From: California
Default

Originally Posted by Jooyoung99
^lol

I test drove a 570S last month. Electronics and interior design are significant improvements over the 650S and 12C. I think the acceleration is on par with the 12C. The car I saw had a sticker of $215K. I think it might be too expensive, considering there are lot of clean and low miles 650S selling for $220K (may even lower). Also, the leasing sucks. They finally have a closed end lease, but the money factors and residuals are horrible. I compared it against Huracan. Huracan with price of $280K - 20K dealer discount had a similar lease payment compared to 570S.
Really? 570S residual is 64% on a 3 year 5mile/yr lease. This is better than just about any Porsche...

I personally don't like the 570S. It feels noticeable "cheaper" than the P11 (12C/650S/675LT) and removes some of the important tech. I don''t understand why everyone raves about the interior. It doesn't feel nearly as special, and I don't have any issue lifting my feet over the original tub silll.

Leftover new '15 650S can be had for 100k discount off MSRP. That's the car to get instead of a 570S.
Old 02-24-2016 | 03:17 PM
  #55  
Jimmy-D's Avatar
Jimmy-D
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 11,298
Likes: 1,496
From: Midwest
Default

Not a fair comparison because the Porsche is a 4-seater. I would take the R8 v10 plus and the LP580-2 over this.

I think that market segment has become crowded rather quickly and with this market slow down they will be cutting deals towards end of year unless they keep production numbers low.

Hence- if Porsche was smart they would pump another 300-500 RS cars to NA because those Customers are not going to settle for a Turbo S
Old 02-24-2016 | 03:42 PM
  #56  
fastmd's Avatar
fastmd
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,247
Likes: 281
From: In the garage
Default

Originally Posted by Jooyoung99
^lol

I test drove a 570S last month. Electronics and interior design are significant improvements over the 650S and 12C. I think the acceleration is on par with the 12C. The car I saw had a sticker of $215K. I think it might be too expensive, considering there are lot of clean and low miles 650S selling for $220K (may even lower). Also, the leasing sucks. They finally have a closed end lease, but the money factors and residuals are horrible. I compared it against Huracan. Huracan with price of $280K - 20K dealer discount had a similar lease payment compared to 570S.

My Mclaren dealer offered me $2200/ month lease 36 months 5K miles per year, $20K drive off. This without negotiating yet. Huracan 610 is $600 more at 2500 miles per year, 580 is $300 more than 570 at 2500 miles. Those deals off the bat are better than Porsche turbo prices.
Old 02-24-2016 | 03:46 PM
  #57  
pissedpuppy's Avatar
pissedpuppy
Nordschleife Master
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 5,262
Likes: 492
From: Naples FL
Default

Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Until McLaren increases is dealership network in the U.S., it's just hard to compare the 570S with its natural rivals (like the R8 or TTS).

Especially if it's marketing premise is a "daily supercar".
likely only a matter of time
Old 02-24-2016 | 03:51 PM
  #58  
TRAKCAR's Avatar
TRAKCAR
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 29,449
Likes: 1,692
From: S. Florida
Default

$2200 a month for 5000 Miles ayear lol.
Why bother..
Old 02-24-2016 | 03:56 PM
  #59  
fastmd's Avatar
fastmd
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,247
Likes: 281
From: In the garage
Default

Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
$2200 a month for 5000 Miles ayear lol.
Why bother..
I agree, I don't lease.
Old 02-24-2016 | 05:04 PM
  #60  
Jooyoung99's Avatar
Jooyoung99
Racer
 
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 293
Likes: 1
From: OC CA
Default

Originally Posted by Serge944
Really? 570S residual is 64% on a 3 year 5mile/yr lease. This is better than just about any Porsche...

I personally don't like the 570S. It feels noticeable "cheaper" than the P11 (12C/650S/675LT) and removes some of the important tech. I don''t understand why everyone raves about the interior. It doesn't feel nearly as special, and I don't have any issue lifting my feet over the original tub silll.

Leftover new '15 650S can be had for 100k discount off MSRP. That's the car to get instead of a 570S.
I got quoted around $2600 for both cars with $20K drive off. This was back in early january.

Are you sure the quote you got is a closed end lease? Open ended leases are cheaper.


Quick Reply: OT: 570S reviews are in



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 01:03 AM.