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#1831
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I didn’t quite understand N24 as a spectator.
Im usually just cranky when at a racetrack without driving but I may need to re-evaluate for next year.
Perhaps use 12 hour of Sebring as a warmup. Never done that either.
Im usually just cranky when at a racetrack without driving but I may need to re-evaluate for next year.
Perhaps use 12 hour of Sebring as a warmup. Never done that either.
#1832
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But the N24 is special - especially the night - it is hard to explain but is such a weird experience.
You are in the middle of everything but you don't know what is going on.
What makes the Ring so special is that everything is very accessible.
Even though there is between 230.000 - 300.000 spectators it is not a problem.
Not like Disneyworld with tons of lines everywhere.
Best way to experience it is to rent a scooter or a bike so you easily can move to and from the GP-track with the pit boxes and out around Nordschleife without hurting you feet too much.
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CT_Peter (07-02-2019)
#1833
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Best way to experience it is to participate like you just did. I’ll be spending more time in Europe in the coming years and may be looking for racing series to potentially race in. Are there any club racing licenses (and schools/venues that provide them) that are recognized across Europe like SCCA is in the USA? How is the club racing scene in Europe?
#1834
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Best way to experience it is to participate like you just did. I’ll be spending more time in Europe in the coming years and may be looking for racing series to potentially race in. Are there any club racing licenses (and schools/venues that provide them) that are recognized across Europe like SCCA is in the USA? How is the club racing scene in Europe?
I got myself a Swedish debut-licens for formula cars some years ago. I never used it in Sweden so I realized it was easier for me to get a German debut-license and start racing in RCN then to do a couple of races in Sweden just to get the required National-A license.
(You need german debut licens if you have a german licens or a National-A in order to run RCN.)
After a couple of RCN's I had a german International C license - this was later converted to a Swedish International-C.
Intl-C is required for VLN and N24H.
#1836
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A little video showin how it is in the dark, It is from Brünnchen to GP track.
Including a long Code 60 on Döttinge Höhe and a situation in Hohenrain chicane where the car that just overtook me is much slower for some reason.
Night was interesting to drive because there where cars that was so much faster than us daytime that couldn't keep up the speed.
Video is a bit darker than real life.
Including a long Code 60 on Döttinge Höhe and a situation in Hohenrain chicane where the car that just overtook me is much slower for some reason.
Night was interesting to drive because there where cars that was so much faster than us daytime that couldn't keep up the speed.
Video is a bit darker than real life.
#1838
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Night driving is for those who can drive the N-ring blindfolded.
#1840
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#1841
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But that wasn't enough - on my first lap I was to upshift to 5th gear going towards Schwedenkreutz but made a mess of it: The datalogger showed an amazing 16300+ rpm(!!!!!). Red line is 7000 rpm.
The engine stoped immediately, lot of lights turned on on the dash. I was devastated.
I rolled thru Aremberg, Fuchröhre with a dead car talking to the team over the radio saying the classic words: "I'm so sorry guy but I've killed the car."
After Adenauer Forst, still cruising at 55+ kph I tried to start the car - to my big surprise the engine started and sounded normal(!).
I came to Metzgesfelt, turned of the hazard light and did my 8 laps :-)
So during the remaining 21 hours we was pretty sure the car would die... but the little fighter didn't :-)
16383 rpm is a bit more than 7000. The 1m45s it took from over revving the engine til I decided the engine was OK was a low point in my life. I felt so bad for my fellow drivers and the team.
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Raven 666 (07-09-2019)
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That's phenomenal strength of the valves. I wonder how they survived??
#1843
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I had a closer look at our laptimes from N24H and compared them with the car that ended up on p3 in our class (we where p5).
I was curious of how close we where to p3 if we hadn't done a couple of rookie mistakes.
I took our laptimes and adjusted them for three things: One particular long pitstop (few minutes), our accident after the brake change, me coming in to the pits one lap too early because of radio failure. These three things could easily been avoided.
I did not adjust the laptimes for the 7 hours with a broken manifold - we lost torque and top speed besides being intoxicated/cooked in the car.
Likewise I did not adjust for my trip thru the gravel trap in Aremberg or my spin in Breidsheid - these where mistakes I expect can happen even when you are super prepared.
In this simulation it turned out that we where p3 until the last lap. We've would have ended 40s after the car on p3. Close but no cigar
Here's a graph showing the gap between us and the p3 car lap by lap:
Y is time difference between us and the p3 car. X is laps.
You can that they are faster than us as the gap increases until lap 23.
Then they have some problems and looses more than an hour to us.
I was curious of how close we where to p3 if we hadn't done a couple of rookie mistakes.
I took our laptimes and adjusted them for three things: One particular long pitstop (few minutes), our accident after the brake change, me coming in to the pits one lap too early because of radio failure. These three things could easily been avoided.
I did not adjust the laptimes for the 7 hours with a broken manifold - we lost torque and top speed besides being intoxicated/cooked in the car.
Likewise I did not adjust for my trip thru the gravel trap in Aremberg or my spin in Breidsheid - these where mistakes I expect can happen even when you are super prepared.
In this simulation it turned out that we where p3 until the last lap. We've would have ended 40s after the car on p3. Close but no cigar
Here's a graph showing the gap between us and the p3 car lap by lap:
Y is time difference between us and the p3 car. X is laps.
You can that they are faster than us as the gap increases until lap 23.
Then they have some problems and looses more than an hour to us.
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