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Old 10-07-2015 | 07:39 PM
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160k for a german rental. Nothing interesting about the car either, i'll pass.
Old 10-07-2015 | 08:16 PM
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I'll take a AMG black series too
Wait... I've got that already
Old 10-07-2015 | 08:58 PM
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Very appealing, seems like a real track car and much faster than a regular M4, but I agree with others that the price is too high relative to the GT3, GT-S, etc. Kind of a shame, because for ~$15K or $20K less, I might be thinking about how to get my hands on one.
Old 10-07-2015 | 10:03 PM
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At that price point, and given the explicit limited production numbers, this is clearly a garage queen.

And is it me, or does that rear wing look awfully wimpy? Maybe I've been hanging around GT3s too long ...
Old 10-07-2015 | 11:10 PM
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Cannot deny how nice it is to drive a BMW. Silky Smooth.

However, have these low production (over priced) special edition M series car really ever caught on?

The wing is kinda meh.
And the 500HP turbo powerplant cannot be any better on the track then my seven year old 997TT 500HP.....
Old 10-07-2015 | 11:14 PM
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In 62 olds had water injection . Carl
Old 10-08-2015 | 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1
Cannot deny how nice it is to drive a BMW. Silky Smooth.

However, have these low production (over priced) special edition M series car really ever caught on?

The wing is kinda meh.
And the 500HP turbo powerplant cannot be any better on the track then my seven year old 997TT 500HP.....
Agree that Bimmers have a silkiness that makes them special in their own right.

That been said, this car's performance is meh and its a poor value given that performance. 991 GT3 is less money and will run proverbial circles around this car.

Agree also these limited numbers mean filthy rich Bimmer fan boys will snap them up as garage queens nonetheless.
Old 10-08-2015 | 01:53 AM
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I'm quite impressed BMW designed a production model water injected engine with no methanol as it seems. Yes the water injection will probably become standard on some future models but it's an interesting engineering step in the turbo charged world.

As mentioned before due to the limited production models the resale value will remain significantly more stable than conventional BMW's.
Old 10-08-2015 | 02:29 AM
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I don't know man. Just test drove a M4 for a DD purpose. So that I won't have to drive GT4 as much as I did with GT3 that I just sold. I had 9000 miles in GT3 in 8 months! Anyway, I find the M4 extremely disconnected. I thought I was driving a Lexus. No joke here! In fact, that was no engine or muffler noise until 4K. I was driving a convertible too and still no sound of engine/exhaust. The turbo lag is also very obvious which I think have to do with manuals.... I don't know...I have been scratching my head about getting a DD before GT4 arrives in late Nov. Plus the interior of the M4 was exactly the same as my old 335is which btw sounded amazing and have almost no lags.

Having said all that, I rather drive a GTR...again.
Old 10-08-2015 | 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by fxz
too pricey to do only 7 28
I agree too pricey. All that power and only 9 seconds quicker than a 991 C2S.
Old 10-08-2015 | 09:06 AM
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I'm a BMW fan. Have owned a bunch going all the way back to '72 02 that I rebuilt and modded. Must say though I'm having a harder and harder time finding new BMW product that I like.

Traded an E60 5-speed for a F80 M3 last fall. The M3 felt disconnected - too much hammer and not enough scapel. Flipped out of it after 3 months of ownership. That said it was great daily driver and pretty good performance bargain.

This GTS at twice the price and with poorly executed visual mods holds almost zero appeal.
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Originally Posted by Nizer
I'm a BMW fan. Have owned a bunch going all the way back to '72 02 that I rebuilt and modded. Must say though I'm having a harder and harder time finding new BMW product that I like.

Traded an E60 5-speed for a F80 M3 last fall. The M3 felt disconnected - too much hammer and not enough scapel. Flipped out of it after 3 months of ownership. That said it was great daily driver and pretty good performance bargain.

This GTS at twice the price and with poorly executed visual mods holds almost zero appeal.
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Old 10-08-2015 | 11:45 AM
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i've had a BMW in the garage for the last 15 or so years. They've always been my or my wife's daily drivers, not my "sports car". I traded an e60 for an f10 which was a big mistake. the f10 felt like a mushy boat. Sold it in a year and got cayenne.

However, wife has a m235i, which is really good. Nits are a little too hoony (its a little rocketship), the lag is manageable but still there, not as sweet as an older 330, car is sprung a little tight for a daily, and the steering is a bit numb, but the rack is very agile and turn in is good, has a good, sporty feel, brakes are really good, interior nice, and the only one that bugs my wife, it has a stupid small gas tank (12 gal?). I think it's my favorite car in their lineup. She's had it a year now without a single issue. Maybe feels a lot like an older M3 outside the turbo lag and the electric steering.

One of the shops here has a 228i manual, 0 option car, that they've done a mild strip on, dampers, suspension work, tune. That car is FAST on the track. Runs with caymans easily. I think if I am building a dedicated track car off a new BMW platform, that is the car.
Old 10-08-2015 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1
Cannot deny how nice it is to drive a BMW. Silky Smooth.

However, have these low production (over priced) special edition M series car really ever caught on?

The wing is kinda meh.
And the 500HP turbo powerplant cannot be any better on the track then my seven year old 997TT 500HP.....
It takes a while but they do catch on. I have had my M3 lightweight since 2007, it is just now starting to really catch on. My Z3M coupe with S54, and the 1M are pretty strong. This M4 GTS looks good unless they over price it relative to the GT3/GTR. Since the GT3 is so hard to get, they can price the M4 GTS quite high. I hope they keep it below the price of the M5 but I doubt it.
Old 10-08-2015 | 12:37 PM
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Forthcoming M2 will be good. Reminds me that I put a deposit down on one long ago and should probably cancel it.


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