Jasonanv

I went to dealer today to get on 991.2 gt3 list, but they already have 10 names on list and they only got a total of 5 991 gt3's. As I'm leaving looking at a lot full of suv's, I wonder why Don't they make more gt cars and less suv's. I understand they want to keep demand high, but common this is insane dealers marking up $100,000 for the rs $20,000 for gt4. I'm starting to look at others cars, wondering how many other people have bought nonp- cars because they couldn't buy the porsche they wanted. Does porsche not realize or care about all sales they are losing. I know they already make so much money but why not make more.

LexVan

If it weren't for the success of the Cayenne, the 911s would probably cost even more, or worse, Porsche would be bankrupt. The Cayenne is a cash cow.

rockitman

Porsche didn't give me the GT car I wanted...ie RS
So I went elsewhere.

Jasonanv

Good point, but there making more suv's than they can sell, why not build a few more gt cars then the dealers won't be in a position to charge huge markups?

R35driver

people want what they can't have. porsche knows this. ferrari knows this. "you better get yours now because who knows.. their might not be any 2017s!!"

You also have to look at it from the owners perspective. by keeping production down and demand high you can essentially buy a new gt3, drive the hell out of it for a year, and not lose any money. When they announce the next GT3, owners will blindly put their name on the list without knowing anything about the upcoming car. They know that porsche won't pull the rug out from under them like mclaren did to their customers.

porsche knows what they are doing in this market segment.

Alan Smithee

I am as frustrated with Porsche as you are, Jason. The whole point of the Cayenne was to stay independent (whoops) and enable them to make the sports cars enthusiasts want. As it turns out, because they no longer need to sell sports cars in order to stay in business, they have started playing Ferrari's game. It's a game I have no interest in playing, so I bought a Lamborghini.

And I bought my SUV from BMW.

Jooyoung99

I know it sucks. But look at the bright side. Once you have the car, you get to enjoy it while holding it's value better than pretty much anything else you can buy.

911Monte

Where are you located?

usctrojanGT3

Sounds like he's either in FL or CA. I put my name down at 3 midwest dealers and I'm number 2, 4, and 5 on their lists.

911Monte

Has anyone heard reliable information that there will indeed be a .2 beyond holding out hope for a manual option and or 4.0 RS engine?

Jasonanv

Minnesota

jmh981

Having VAG for an owner, you would think this would free Porsche up to be a sports car company only, - letting Audi and VW make the SUV's.

It's not like the SUV market is life or death anymore for Porsche, as they have the parent company to fall back on now....

ipse dixit

Because GT3s are not money-makers for Porsche.

They never were.

They never will be.

They are halo cars.

They give "Porsche" a nice patina of uber cool.

Which makes people want to buy their SUVs.

Which keeps the company profitable.

Which allows the company to make more GT3 cars for us that are punch drunk on Porsche Kool-Aid.

DRPM

The 991 RS has a 4.0, just not Mezger

mrsullivan

couple spot on posts here...what is frustrating is that they set the price of the GT cars too low, make them in too low of numbers, so if you are a lucky lottery winner and get an allocation, you can go drive it for a year or so for free, then sell it to someone that didn't get an allocation, and you just drove a Porsche GT for free... then you get on the list for another one and repeat. Its pretty silly. Why wouldn't Porsche instead charge more for their GT cars in MSRP, fix the supply /demand curve to achieve equilibrium, and stop all this weird side market eBay like activity with dealers, buyers, etc. A certain dealer that will go unnamed (not mine) told me they had a 16 GT3 allocation. They wanted me to basically buy the car and trade it right back to them to get an RS allocation. They said the reason they do this is Porsche frowns on the over-MSRP thing but once the car is used/certified inventory, they don't have as much an issue with pricing to market.

Bottom line, by having deflated GT prices, Porsche creates all kinds of silliness in the near/after market. I am not just itching to pay more money. But honestly, based on what has happened in the market, you don't have to be a pricing expert to see that GT3s and especially RS cars were underpriced and under manufactured relative to market.