991 GT3 RS or Used 458
06-24-2015, 09:58 AM
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Nordschleife Master
I had the chance to drive a 458 on track quite a bit (a couple different tracks) and it was a fantastic car - an amazing, precision tool designed for the job. If anything - I found it a bit twitchy in race mode. I had trouble being smooth with the throttle - the slightest movement of my foot translated, and it took quite awhile to get used to a throttle THAT sensitive. I don't know if they are all like that - but I wasn't the only one who commented on how incredibly sensitive it was. It was also nimble, laser precise, and torquey in a good way! Lots of fun to drive
06-24-2015, 06:42 PM
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06-24-2015, 10:51 PM
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The pic above in black looks the best I have seen. It will be a monster performance wise while not quite as good sound or as sensitive throttle response of the 458. If I went hybrid...918 or LaFerrari....Build #1 up on eBay for 5 mill....I like black on the 458, 488 and LaFerrari better. Sacrilege I know. LaFerrari will never happen for me...a man must know his limits.
06-24-2015, 11:31 PM
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06-25-2015, 09:25 AM
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But it just looks so evil...
Seriously, not a fan of turbo either but at least they seem to be doing all they can to make it feel NA. Trick will be a rising torque curve instead of the standard plateau from 1,500rpm that most turbo lumps seem to generate. They talk about the concept but so far I've yet to see a dyno chart from them........
Doesn't matter because I'll never own one unless I move to Miami or SoCal.
Seriously, not a fan of turbo either but at least they seem to be doing all they can to make it feel NA. Trick will be a rising torque curve instead of the standard plateau from 1,500rpm that most turbo lumps seem to generate. They talk about the concept but so far I've yet to see a dyno chart from them........
Doesn't matter because I'll never own one unless I move to Miami or SoCal.
06-25-2015, 10:22 AM
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Harris was frothing at the mouth over the performance envelope of the 488, especially the acceleration. I'm not a fan of the concept (turbo Ferrari), but it seems to be a modern day F40, but much faster. I'm guessing upper 130's 1/4 mile trap speed with huge braking and grip. It'll be a cool car for sure and it really doesn't sound dramatically different than the 458 from the videos I've heard.
Oh OP, GT3 RS is a NO BRAINER. Get the car at MSRP play with it for a year or 3 and sell it for what you paid for it, possibly more depending on miles/market, etc. Then you can get a clean 458 or even a year old 488 if you so choose.
Oh OP, GT3 RS is a NO BRAINER. Get the car at MSRP play with it for a year or 3 and sell it for what you paid for it, possibly more depending on miles/market, etc. Then you can get a clean 458 or even a year old 488 if you so choose.
06-25-2015, 11:02 AM
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It seems nothing like a modern day F40. The F40 was shockingly devoid of modern conveniences and comforts even by late 80s/early 90s standards. With all of the electronic wizardry, the 488 seems the exact opposite of the F40 (other than having two IHIs blowing into a Ferrari V8).
06-25-2015, 11:32 AM
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The 458 is a great car but it was mass produced and there are tons out there - people are lining up to sell them on ebay. Prices will continue to drop. You cannot get a 991GT3 RS (very easily). it will be a limited run and NA too. I'd jump at the opportunity to get an RS - you can drive it for a year and likely not lose any $$. Then switch to a 458 at $20K less than what you'd pay today 
06-25-2015, 01:54 PM
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It seems nothing like a modern day F40. The F40 was shockingly devoid of modern conveniences and comforts even by late 80s/early 90s standards. With all of the electronic wizardry, the 488 seems the exact opposite of the F40 (other than having two IHIs blowing into a Ferrari V8).
06-26-2015, 12:07 AM
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The 458 is a great car but it was mass produced and there are tons out there - people are lining up to sell them on ebay. Prices will continue to drop. You cannot get a 991GT3 RS (very easily). it will be a limited run and NA too. I'd jump at the opportunity to get an RS - you can drive it for a year and likely not lose any $$. Then switch to a 458 at $20K less than what you'd pay today
07-07-2015, 02:39 PM
#58
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Money wise, if you can get an RS at MSRP, it will be a better investment in the short run, meaning 6 to 12 months. In 10 years, the 458 will be worth a lot more than the RS because it will be the last naturally aspirated Ferrari V8, and a great engine at that, and its a Ferrari, and probably the best Ferrari V8 car ever. The RS in 10 years will just be supplanted by a newer RS, still with PDK, but probably with a turbocharged or hybrid engine like everyone else. The market is moving toward "old school". Look at the prices of all the air-cooled 911's, 997 GT3's (mostly because of the manual transmission), and any older Ferrari's.
Car wise, the 458 is a much more fun drive on the streets IMO.
Car wise, the 458 is a much more fun drive on the streets IMO.
07-07-2015, 03:26 PM
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When do you think we hit bottom on the 458 used car pricing? A year or two after the 488 has been released? 
If I can't get an RS then I might just pick up a used 458, especially if it's trading the high $100s.
If I can't get an RS then I might just pick up a used 458, especially if it's trading the high $100s.