Boxster Spyder Porsche misses the mark
04-15-2015, 02:59 PM
#46
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How experienced of a driver are you? I am fairly experienced, drive a 986S, mostly at Sebring where brakes get a workout, and have never worn a set of pads in as little as 3 days. I presume you are doing 3 typical DE days where there may be 2-3 hours/day track time? I will say that since spending thousands of $'s on pro coaching over the past few years I am on the brakes way less than previously. That's why I ask how experienced of a driver you are.
I'm with Charlie (DrJupeman) on this. The Boxster line was never meant to be a track car. We USE it as a track car, but that is NOT what Porsche intended. That's part why they built the Cayman. IMO, the Boxster was built to be a fun, twisty road driving roadster, NOT a track car. The Spyder is the ultimate expression of that.
Just like you would buy a 911 coupe over a cab if you were track focused, you should buy a Cayman over a Boxster if your track focused.
Not EVERY model variation is built specifically with track use in mind.
Just like you would buy a 911 coupe over a cab if you were track focused, you should buy a Cayman over a Boxster if your track focused.
Not EVERY model variation is built specifically with track use in mind.
04-15-2015, 03:10 PM
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My Touareg DD is about to turn 100k miles and I'm still on original pads and rotors. Perhaps I've just learned how to minimize brake use? :-)
04-15-2015, 03:35 PM
#48
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I only run Pagid yellows. Perhaps such high quality pads last longer? I also have a GT3 master cylinder and Gt2 cooling ducts. Perhaps all these factors lead to longer pad life? I'm guessing Sebring is just as hard on brakes as most any other track. For sure it's as hard on suspension components. :-) oh and I run Hoosier R6's.
My Touareg DD is about to turn 100k miles and I'm still on original pads and rotors. Perhaps I've just learned how to minimize brake use? :-)
My Touareg DD is about to turn 100k miles and I'm still on original pads and rotors. Perhaps I've just learned how to minimize brake use? :-)
04-16-2015, 11:19 AM
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04-17-2015, 12:22 AM
#51
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Take a look over on Planet 9 the Boxster Cayman forum and read about all the guys frying their brakes and Calipers. Most track guys have upgraded rotor and caliper sizes and installed GT3 master cylinders. I wore out a set of pads in three track days on my Boxster S. Orthojoe can attest to this on his Boxster Spyder.
Take a look over on Planet 9 the Boxster Cayman forum and read about all the guys frying their brakes and Calipers. Most track guys have upgraded rotor and caliper sizes and installed GT3 master cylinders. I wore out a set of pads in three track days on my Boxster S. Orthojoe can attest to this on his Boxster Spyder.
Upgraded rotors and calipers... my guess is that most do it because (A) they read on the internet that's what they should do
, (B) they have PTV which is heating up the brakes, or (C) some are really fast in hot climates and actually need them (small minority). If you track with stock pads - yes, you'll burn 'em up real quick.Having said that, additional cooling is key with stock 987 brakes. I have brake ducts in the front and rear. Oh, and GT3 master cylinder is an excellent mod. I don't know why I didn't do it before.
04-17-2015, 07:10 AM
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I must disagree with this. I have over 60 track days on my Spyder. No boiling fluids, nothing (including Super Blue). Brakes have been fine other than the rear calipers turning amber/maroon. And, no, it's not because I'm slow either. Upgraded rotors and calipers... my guess is that most do it because (A) they read on the internet that's what they should do , (B) they have PTV which is heating up the brakes, or (C) some are really fast in hot climates and actually need them (small minority). If you track with stock pads - yes, you'll burn 'em up real quick. Having said that, additional cooling is key with stock 987 brakes. I have brake ducts in the front and rear. Oh, and GT3 master cylinder is an excellent mod. I don't know why I didn't do it before.
Upgraded rotors and calipers... my guess is that most do it because (A) they read on the internet that's what they should do , (B) they have PTV which is heating up the brakes, or (C) some are really fast in hot climates and actually need them (small minority). If you track with stock pads - yes, you'll burn 'em up real quick. Having said that, additional cooling is key with stock 987 brakes. I have brake ducts in the front and rear. Oh, and GT3 master cylinder is an excellent mod. I don't know why I didn't do it before.I was losing brakes until I went to GT3 master cylinder and GT2 cooling ducts. My best time is a 2:32. The fastest pro time in my car is a 2:31. My point being that i wasn't cooking the brakes due to over braking. I push the car pretty good and stock brake setup wasn't good enough.
04-21-2015, 12:12 PM
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From very early on, just after spy shots showed the GT4 was a real thing with bespoke Motorsport division bits, every spy photo that followed of the Spyder (months ago) revealed standard-ish brakes. It was very evident that this was not going to have the performance pedigree of the GT4. The final release is exactly what we should have expected given visual evidence.
That said, I'm am surprised that it somehow doesn't look quite as beautiful to me as the 987 spyder did given that I think every other 981 looks better, more aggressive than their 987 counterparts. Could it be the lack of decals? Curves? Silver accents? Not sure...this one looks a bit awkward in pictures so far, but maybe in person...
That said, I'm am surprised that it somehow doesn't look quite as beautiful to me as the 987 spyder did given that I think every other 981 looks better, more aggressive than their 987 counterparts. Could it be the lack of decals? Curves? Silver accents? Not sure...this one looks a bit awkward in pictures so far, but maybe in person...
04-21-2015, 01:37 PM
#54
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Once more, larger rotors, great fluid and tough pads are the hot ticket. The 981 has GREAT front brakes...but the rears STILL suck. Same caliper since 1997...why, Porsche...whyyy...
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