EXCLUDING value for money, is GT3 a better driver's car than RS?
03-29-2015, 08:25 PM
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The question is too speculative right now, need to wait for reviews of the RS, preferably comparos with the regular GT3.
Also need to define what's meant by 'driver's car', since road and track are different worlds. Both cars are obviously overqualified for the road, unless one is among the few lucky enough to live around roads which are fun yet relatively free of safety hazards and law enforcement.
Also need to define what's meant by 'driver's car', since road and track are different worlds. Both cars are obviously overqualified for the road, unless one is among the few lucky enough to live around roads which are fun yet relatively free of safety hazards and law enforcement.
03-29-2015, 08:39 PM
#18
Hard to argue against this point - I have a GT3 in the garage and RS order at V200 status. I really can't see myself keeping the GT3 as a garage mate for the RS as I just don't see when I would want to drive it.
I'd rather get something different like the new R8, 488 GTB etc to go with the RS than keep it's weaker sister.
I'd rather get something different like the new R8, 488 GTB etc to go with the RS than keep it's weaker sister.
03-29-2015, 08:51 PM
#19
Three Wheelin'
Yeah, that was the question.
But, if value for money isn't considered how about Speciale v. GT3? The GT3 great because it can be compared to a Speciale that costs twice as much wouldn't you agree? If you asked, Speciale v. RS, value for money excluded, what answer?
I don't like a question that says value for money excluded because, that question only applies to people who have so much that it isn't relevant. And, that's not most people.
Dan (always considers value and always will)
But, if value for money isn't considered how about Speciale v. GT3? The GT3 great because it can be compared to a Speciale that costs twice as much wouldn't you agree? If you asked, Speciale v. RS, value for money excluded, what answer?
I don't like a question that says value for money excluded because, that question only applies to people who have so much that it isn't relevant. And, that's not most people.
Dan (always considers value and always will)
03-29-2015, 09:46 PM
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The question is too speculative right now, need to wait for reviews of the RS, preferably comparos with the regular GT3.
Also need to define what's meant by 'driver's car', since road and track are different worlds. Both cars are obviously overqualified for the road, unless one is among the few lucky enough to live around roads which are fun yet relatively free of safety hazards and law enforcement.
Also need to define what's meant by 'driver's car', since road and track are different worlds. Both cars are obviously overqualified for the road, unless one is among the few lucky enough to live around roads which are fun yet relatively free of safety hazards and law enforcement.
03-29-2015, 09:54 PM
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the Non RS is the better car to have as a daily driver.
Less in your face styling
Less intake noise
Less aero
Less rubber
all the reasons why the RS is in fact the better drivers car.
But realistically they are both so well matched that you would have to get them on the track to feel any performance improvment.
Less in your face styling
Less intake noise
Less aero
Less rubber
all the reasons why the RS is in fact the better drivers car.
But realistically they are both so well matched that you would have to get them on the track to feel any performance improvment.
03-29-2015, 10:05 PM
#24
I agree with this. I don't much care for all the vents, especially over the front wheels. That just strikes me as too over the top and of questionable value. The turbo vents I wonder whether they are there simply because it was easier to leave them there from an original turbo body panel. And, 25 horse power, and the few changes don't justify the difference in price between the RS and the 3. The only reason I'd buy one of these is because they're rarer and would have a better chance to hold value or appreciate. And, that's not why I bought the 3 or a reason I'd buy a RS, even if I could find an allocation.
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If you simultaneously wind tunnel and dyno tested the RS the ram-air effect could be proven (?AP do this). The ram-air effect seems to make sense from our knowledge of turbo compression of intake air/fuel ... why would AP deceive us on this ... I'd trust him on this, although would like to see wind tunnel testing.
In any case, I think the RS will be a faster and more agile track animal than many of us expect. But, if you don't want to push the RS to/near its limits in performance, then why bother with the RS? The basic GT3 is plenty of excitement as many of us can attest, on the street and on the track ....
03-29-2015, 10:05 PM
#25
I have not seen the first test and no one I know has driven one. who knows. It the 50k is important then no.
03-29-2015, 10:05 PM
#26
Three Wheelin'
I'll let you know once both are in the garage. It will be first time I've had all the current generation gt cars assuming no snags with arrivals, GT3, RS, GT4....cant wait to have them all together at track. Just for sport the one that gets tossed around as a order cancel is the RS only because I've heard from a little birdie they are holding back big for act 2 and it will involve big technology enhancements.
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03-29-2015, 10:11 PM
#28
Three Wheelin'
The front fender vents are integral in the increased downforce, allowing larger rear wing, resulting in 350kg downforce at speed (plain vanilla GT3=170kg). The rear fender turbo-like vents, as you must have heard, provide a ram-air effect at speed (see multiple AP explanations on this) with resulting increase in hp relative to static dyno testing. The increased downforce from the new aero and the ram-air effect will create an RS that is faster both in straight line as well as upon corner entry and throughout high speed corners .... comparison reviews and multiple journalist driver reviews will need to address this.
If you simultaneously wind tunnel and dyno tested the RS the ram-air effect could be proven (?AP do this). The ram-air effect seems to make sense from our knowledge of turbo compression of intake air/fuel ... why would AP deceive us on this ... I'd trust him on this, although would like to see wind tunnel testing.
In any case, I think the RS will be a faster and more agile track animal than many of us expect. But, if you don't want to push the RS to/near its limits in performance, then why bother with the RS? The basic GT3 is plenty of excitement as many of us can attest, on the street and on the track ....
If you simultaneously wind tunnel and dyno tested the RS the ram-air effect could be proven (?AP do this). The ram-air effect seems to make sense from our knowledge of turbo compression of intake air/fuel ... why would AP deceive us on this ... I'd trust him on this, although would like to see wind tunnel testing.
In any case, I think the RS will be a faster and more agile track animal than many of us expect. But, if you don't want to push the RS to/near its limits in performance, then why bother with the RS? The basic GT3 is plenty of excitement as many of us can attest, on the street and on the track ....
Dan (mainly doesn't like the looks)
03-29-2015, 10:37 PM
#30
Three Wheelin'
I will add that this current GT3 is a big thrust forward from a lap time stand point....it is hard to justify the RS if you only look at money but the factory is also not being truthful on what the RS is really capable of(?).......wait till the first articles get published!